Open Field or Not?

[Tabitha Draughon]

Now I get atop of my soap box!!! I agree with what most are saying that if the race had been run to completion, Lee would still be in the position that he is currently in. The fact of the matter is that the race wasn't ran & to my understanding, not all classes even made a pass. I don't understand IHRA's thinking by making this race a closed field based off the above. We were at Mooresville, had made 2 qualifying runs with a ladder generated, jr. dragsters were in the water box for first round somewhere around 10:30 p.m. when the plug was pulled on this event. If any race should have had a closed field, you would have thought that it would have been Mooresville. The Mooresville race was moved to another D9 track/event & most racers were happy with this decision. However, there were no reward to the racers that stayed at Mooresville all day & night. Not to mention, that some racers were at Mooresville, didn't go back to the rescheduled event at Farmington, but called IHRA & since they don't have the transfer rule this year, instead of just getting the 10 points for the Mooresville event; their $$$ is good at the Mooresville event next year. I think IHRA made a great move on opening the event up at the Farmington/Mooresville race because more racers came in. However, by opening the field; the ladder was done away with & random pairing was put into place. By handling the race in this situation, my husband won the event & points were not given based off of field size but instead they were awarding based of # of rounds of race since a car did not show back up for 3rd round of the race. Not only did it take a round out of the race, it also took out 3 bye runs. This can ultimately have an effect on if Robbie gets in the Top 3 & also the potential of winning the championship. By having dragstrip employment experience, I know that it it impossible to make a decision that will be effect all racers equally but I do feel that IHRA has made a quick decision on this call & it is not fair to all racers involved. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes here but IHRA needs to re-evaluate this decision & look at similar but somewhat different situations & how they handled those.

[Rich67stang]

As you can see from the 2 pages of posts, all NC racers have no problem with this decision or can live with it. I am probably the only (idiot) from NJ chasing points as a TRUE div 1 racer with IHRA, they should have ran it @ a TRUE div 1 track like skyview, which most of the NC racers claiming Div1 did not attend during the season. Unfortunately it is a flawed system. After blowing a gasket reading all of these selfish comments, I do understand IHRA's situation, if the car counts were up and tracks made profits from Pro-ams in DIV1 you better believe MIR would have rescheduled. The Millers are great people, but this is there livelihood and no track wants a race that looses $$.

No disrespect to other Div1 racers, but I am in 4th in superstock with a good chance of making the TOC for the first time in SS, but my business will not allow me to go to Darlington (12hrs) or London (10hrs)...my problem.

Richard
SS/DM 161

[Brandon Peterson]

Originally Posted by Rich67stang

As you can see from the 2 pages of posts, all NC racers have no problem with this decision or can live with it. I am probably the only (idiot) from NJ chasing points as a TRUE div 1 racer with IHRA, they should have ran it @ a TRUE div 1 track like skyview, which most of the NC racers claiming Div1 did not attend during the season. Unfortunately it is a flawed system. After blowing a gasket reading all of these selfish comments, I do understand IHRA's situation, if the car counts were up and tracks made profits from Pro-ams in DIV1 you better believe MIR would have rescheduled. The Millers are great people, but this is there livelihood and no track wants a race that looses $$.

No disrespect to other Div1 racers, but I am in 4th in superstock with a good chance of making the TOC for the first time in SS, but my business will not allow me to go to Darlington (12hrs) or London (10hrs)...my problem.

Richard
SS/DM 161

they tried but no tracks would take this race all are book through the end of year from what i heard...yes i will admit i am happy about being able to claim darlington but if it came down to traveling to kentucky or anywhere else i would have done just that,as i feel i had a equal chance of bettering myself as you did..it cant be any worse than going to martin mich. 2 years in a row it took us 9 hours to get to MIR with all the troubles we had and 6 to get home, you can't pawn it off on all NC races being happy we traveled the road this year and years past chasing points, this situation just came out good and bad some people

[THE LEGEND]

Rich,
I call BS on your thinking you are more of a division 1 racer than me because you are a Yankee. I only live 200 miles from Richmond and 300 from MIR How far are you????????

To answer your question about being fair. It's not fair to some but life ain't either. I'm leading the points in Hot Rod and would go to BUMF**#$%&ked Egypt to finish out what I started.
No Disrespect intended.
Chip

[Rich67stang]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Rich,
I call BS on your thinking you are more of a division 1 racer than me because you are a Yankee. I only live 200 miles from Richmond and 300 from MIR How far are you????????

To answer your question about being fair. It's not fair to some but life ain't either. I'm leading the points in Hot Rod and would go to BUMF**#$%&ked Egypt to finish out what I started.
No Disrespect intended.
Chip

Be nice Chip, Dont start cursing @ someone from Brooklyn, NY... That being said, I am 250 from MIR, 300 from Richmond, did you goto skyview..no, did you goto Pitts...no, I do not recall ever seeing you @ Epping, WHY? .So yes, I am more of a DIV1 racer than you. It should be held @ a DIV1 track, wherever that may be.

[Bryan Worner]

So now us true D1 racers have to travel thousands of miles (round trips) to try to win a points race or two, worth about $2500.00 each? Not worth it! Why no reschedule at MIR? No planning on IHRA's part for a possible rain date? Why was this race, which has always been run in April, scheduled in August this year? Especially with no effort into planning a rain date? Come on!

Maybe the rumor that MIR is going NHRA next season is true after all!!!

[Brandon Peterson]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

So now us true D1 racers have to travel thousands of miles (round trips) to try to win a points race or two, worth about $2500.00 each? Not worth it! Why no reschedule at MIR? No planning on IHRA's part for a possible rain date? Why was this race, which has always been run in April, scheduled in August this year? Especially with no effort into planning a rain date? Come on!

Maybe the rumor that MIR is going NHRA next season is true after all!!!

Bryan, MIR announced before we left the track that they had no open slot on their schedule to host the venue they have plus another shot at a pro am..so a make up race at MIR was out before we left the track

[Michael Beard]

Rich - In the past, Chip has been to Epping, Pittsburgh, Martin, Palm Beach, Immokalee, etc. The travel argument doesn't work well against him.

Chip - You posted in the .90 section on a roll call thread

I hav'nt decided yet. I got a broke rearend. I got a broke wallet and diesel is pushing $4 bucks again.

If you hadn't gotten the gear fixed in time and hadn't gone, and saw it rain out... would you relinquish your points lead with a shrug, take a '0' for the season and say, "Sometime's life's not fair."?

[Chris1529]

I think this is a little different situation since it was the last two division one races of the year. For those racers that chose not to come to get their in division races in, or chose not to come for some other reason, knowing full well this was the last two division one races of the year, why would you think the field should be open if the race is run somewhere else? If you needed the points or claims, and you chose not to come to MIR, then you were giving up on the points. Just because the race was rained out and racers are given an opportunity to earn points elsewhere, that by no means gives anyone else the right to enter now.

For those that couldn't come to MIR, you would have missed out on the claims/points anyway if the race was run. I don't think there is an arguement for an open field there either.

If this hadn't been the last race of the season in the division, and there were still claims left on the table for everyone, I think IHRA would open up the field.

I also think its not too fair to the people from up north, but if no other tracks would schedule another divisional, then what choice did IHRA have? There wasn't enough cars at MIR to cover the purse, so why would another track take a divisional right now.

I'm not going to Darlington or London. I had already made other plans this weekend, and I took my first and last trip to London last spring.

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Rich - In the past, Chip has been to Epping, Pittsburgh, Martin, Palm Beach, Immokalee, etc. The travel argument doesn't work well against him.

Chip - You posted in the .90 section on a roll call thread


If you hadn't gotten the gear fixed in time and hadn't gone, and saw it rain out... would you relinquish your points lead with a shrug, take a '0' for the season and say, "Sometime's life's not fair."?

Exactly my point in starting this thread. If the shoe was on the other foot...

So now I will be at an event with other D1 racers and they can claim it but I cannot. The race at MIR didn't even happen...