Erica & Greg? - Page 10

Jason · 08-03-2012, 08:09 AM

From the 2012 rulebook in Pro Stock section:

"NHRA-accepted composite body mandatory."

They don't even use real bodies anymore. Nothing about Pro Stock is stock. But then very little about Stock is stock anymore. And it's all in the name of progress.

Ed Wright · 08-03-2012, 08:32 AM

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

Bob Don · 08-03-2012, 09:09 AM

I gotta tell you, Ed, I'm not a big fan of the homogenized jelly beans that Pro Stocks have become. I prefer it when pro stock bodies were actual cars. (Much like NASCAR has become as well).

D.Johns · 08-03-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

Exactly my thoughts as well. This class is incredible. The close races, the precision needed for perfect run everytime and the technology. The cars are a marvel.

I wonder if or when they may allow Fuel Injection and dare I say it, Overhead Cams maybe in 10 years

cutta · 08-03-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

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Originally Posted by Bob Don

I gotta tell you, Ed, I'm not a big fan of the homogenized jelly beans that Pro Stocks have become. I prefer it when pro stock bodies were actual cars. (Much like NASCAR has become as well).

Unfortunately, using OEM bodies or bodies more similar to OEM will create an even bigger parity issue giving rule makers an even bigger headache.

Ed Wright · 08-03-2012, 09:39 AM

Still talking about fuel injection. Racing is so close, I don't understand why they would change it.

D.Johns · 08-03-2012, 10:26 AM

Racing is very close and as a fan of the class I think the parity is there and don't need to make big changes. Everyone has their new bodies that are lot closer to one another. I hated when the everyone was running the small body cars for the advantage. It killed off the mustangs and the F-body's from being competitive in the class with the huge frontal area in comparison of the cavaliers, etc. Once NHRA and manufactures submitted the redesigned pro-stock bodies things were a lot closer and now we've go mustangs and camaros back.

Has a fan of bringing more current technology and closer relevance to production cars, which hopefully will bring more Manufactures back to racing while providing some trickle down effect to consumer cars. I would like to see some progression. However that is deathly expensive, harder to govern, and could cause some parity issues once again.

On one hand it would detract from some fans that like the close racing, on the other hand it would bring some fans in.
Like NASCAR, I can't get into that in the least. But I could have gotten into it in the earlier days when the manufactures where involved. Competition breeds the best.

Sooooo I'm conflicted lol. I'm a car guy first and foremost.

Ed Carpenter · 08-03-2012, 11:07 AM

The drivers voted earlier this year and they don't want fuel injection. A whole lot of money and in the end you end up in the same place. The engine won't make anymore power with fuel injection per WJ. He knows a little bit about a pro stock engine. LOL

Jim Wahl · 08-03-2012, 11:49 AM

Pro Stock and Comp are the only classes I will watch anymore. (other than S/SS of course). I really would like to see bodies that are closer to stock however. It's getting harder to tell what's what. Comp amazes me (doesn't take much) and probably the most innovative class there is. I'm good friends with the Treadwell's and Glenn is a genius in my book. Jim

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Todd Boyer · 08-03-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

It is close racing, IMHO it'd just be nice if the cars were still like they were 15 years ago. They are a bit like NASCAR cars in that they really don't resemble actual street cars, but given the choice, I'd watch Pro Stock hands down every time. Watching cars turn left all day just makes me dizzy. It blows my mind how many people are into it.

08-03-2012, 08:09 AM	#91
Jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 235 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? From the 2012 rulebook in Pro Stock section: "NHRA-accepted composite body mandatory." They don't even use real bodies anymore. Nothing about Pro Stock is stock. But then very little about Stock is stock anymore. And it's all in the name of progress.

08-03-2012, 08:32 AM	#92
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,496 Likes: 1,134 Liked 903 Times in 192 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? I gotta tell you, Ed, I'm not a big fan of the homogenized jelly beans that Pro Stocks have become. I prefer it when pro stock bodies were actual cars. (Much like NASCAR has become as well). __________________ Bob Don 128 SS

08-03-2012, 09:39 AM	#96
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? Still talking about fuel injection. Racing is so close, I don't understand why they would change it. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

08-03-2012, 10:26 AM	#97
D.Johns Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 437 Likes: 15 Liked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? Racing is very close and as a fan of the class I think the parity is there and don't need to make big changes. Everyone has their new bodies that are lot closer to one another. I hated when the everyone was running the small body cars for the advantage. It killed off the mustangs and the F-body's from being competitive in the class with the huge frontal area in comparison of the cavaliers, etc. Once NHRA and manufactures submitted the redesigned pro-stock bodies things were a lot closer and now we've go mustangs and camaros back. Has a fan of bringing more current technology and closer relevance to production cars, which hopefully will bring more Manufactures back to racing while providing some trickle down effect to consumer cars. I would like to see some progression. However that is deathly expensive, harder to govern, and could cause some parity issues once again. On one hand it would detract from some fans that like the close racing, on the other hand it would bring some fans in. Like NASCAR, I can't get into that in the least. But I could have gotten into it in the earlier days when the manufactures where involved. Competition breeds the best. Sooooo I'm conflicted lol. I'm a car guy first and foremost. __________________ 2014 Cobra Jet FS/XX #3345 STK/SS Like us on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Daniel...25886327426822

08-03-2012, 11:07 AM	#98
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? The drivers voted earlier this year and they don't want fuel injection. A whole lot of money and in the end you end up in the same place. The engine won't make anymore power with fuel injection per WJ. He knows a little bit about a pro stock engine. LOL __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

08-03-2012, 11:49 AM	#99
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 668 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Erica & Greg? Pro Stock and Comp are the only classes I will watch anymore. (other than S/SS of course). I really would like to see bodies that are closer to stock however. It's getting harder to tell what's what. Comp amazes me (doesn't take much) and probably the most innovative class there is. I'm good friends with the Treadwell's and Glenn is a genius in my book. Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.