Inline six/fox body header?

Joe Toller · 08-02-2012, 11:01 PM

It's a combo I have, what I have accumulated has been dirt-cheap (trying my hand at a Dime Rocket) and the NHRA HP is wrong (working on that). I'm going to start with the six, and maybe move to a 302 later. I'm following some good advice from Billy Nees, and honestly, I'm a glutton and like the challenge. I have always liked messing with sixes, and oddballs at that. Shoot, I have had this car in and out of my life for the last two years while other projects have come and passed, so I take it as a sign lol...

If it sucks, then lesson learned. I'll just try something different, like the 302.

Mark, being the other Vet whose advice I weigh heavily, I understand the design flaws of the 200 here, but is there something else I am missing? Would it be better to you if the HP was corrected to 115 and not 140?

Joe Toller · 08-02-2012, 11:21 PM

Plus, after searching and researching and probably asking enough silly noob questions to drive a veteran nuts, I figured the best thing was to just finally pick a combo and dive in! Gotta learn what this is all about somehow, right?

I'm not afraid to lose, or to fail, I'm afraid to not try and regret it later.

Mark Yacavone · 08-02-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iraceitall

It's a combo I have, what I have accumulated has been dirt-cheap (trying my hand at a Dime Rocket) and the NHRA HP is wrong (working on that). I'm going to start with the six, and maybe move to a 302 later. I'm following some good advice from Billy Nees, and honestly, I'm a glutton and like the challenge. I have always liked messing with sixes, and oddballs at that. Shoot, I have had this car in and out of my life for the last two years while other projects have come and passed, so I take it as a sign lol...

If it sucks, then lesson learned. I'll just try something different, like the 302.

Mark, being the other Vet whose advice I weigh heavily, I understand the design flaws of the 200 here, but is there something else I am missing? Would it be better to you if the HP was corrected to 115 and not 140?

Certainly, but then you'd be down the same rating as the Monza I have for sale with the same size engine and a TWO bbl. carb.

Joe Toller · 08-03-2012, 12:04 AM

Good point.

David Lee · 08-03-2012, 12:07 AM

If I were you I would just go bracket race that combo and have fun with it. Do all the suspension mods etc and then drop the 302 in it. Spending the money on a header that may or may not work well is just a waste of money.

VStock · 08-03-2012, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by iraceitall

It's a combo I have, what I have accumulated has been dirt-cheap (trying my hand at a Dime Rocket) and the NHRA HP is wrong (working on that). I'm going to start with the six, and maybe move to a 302 later. I'm following some good advice from Billy Nees, and honestly, I'm a glutton and like the challenge. I have always liked messing with sixes, and oddballs at that.

You're facing the same issues I am. I have a car/engine combo I want to run (67 El Camino/230), but the advice here is that it's not competitive. Do I build what I have and want to build, or do I buy a car that has a better chance of winning?

David Lee · 08-03-2012, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VStock

You're facing the same issues I am. I have a car/engine combo I want to run (67 El Camino/230), but the advice here is that it's not competitive. Do I build what I have and want to build, or do I buy a car that has a better chance of winning?

You can win with any car,just talk to Lane Weber or a host of other guys here like Mark Y. The problem is you may spend more money than necessary jsu to get this combo run the number

Mark Ruset · 08-03-2012, 05:40 AM

Just make sure this combo has the potential to at least run the index if you are going class racing. Other wise it's just a waste of time and money.

Joe Toller · 08-03-2012, 11:40 AM

This engine combo can run the index in a Maverick or Comet, I get a slightly better flowing head and a little less weight, so I figure if I'm in the ballpark I *should* at least run the index. I personally think it'd be fun as hell to put a 200 with a 1bbl in the 15's. I like the oddballs. At this point, I have everything but a converter and cam, and by scrounging (thank you CL and ebay) and using some used parts I am in it $1500. Granted that is just collecting parts and I have yet to tear into the motor and trans. I found a header unused for $150. I'll probably start a build blog to share, good or bad.

When someone says why, ask, why not?

Joe Toller · 08-03-2012, 12:30 PM

If it doesn't run the number, I can put that 200 in another Fairmont with some more cam and carb on the street and then I'll go 302, but not until after I give the six a fair shot.

08-02-2012, 11:01 PM	#1
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? It's a combo I have, what I have accumulated has been dirt-cheap (trying my hand at a Dime Rocket) and the NHRA HP is wrong (working on that). I'm going to start with the six, and maybe move to a 302 later. I'm following some good advice from Billy Nees, and honestly, I'm a glutton and like the challenge. I have always liked messing with sixes, and oddballs at that. Shoot, I have had this car in and out of my life for the last two years while other projects have come and passed, so I take it as a sign lol... If it sucks, then lesson learned. I'll just try something different, like the 302. Mark, being the other Vet whose advice I weigh heavily, I understand the design flaws of the 200 here, but is there something else I am missing? Would it be better to you if the HP was corrected to 115 and not 140?

08-02-2012, 11:21 PM	#2
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? Plus, after searching and researching and probably asking enough silly noob questions to drive a veteran nuts, I figured the best thing was to just finally pick a combo and dive in! Gotta learn what this is all about somehow, right? I'm not afraid to lose, or to fail, I'm afraid to not try and regret it later.

08-03-2012, 12:04 AM	#4
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? Good point.

08-03-2012, 12:07 AM	#5
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,168 Likes: 487 Liked 346 Times in 126 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? If I were you I would just go bracket race that combo and have fun with it. Do all the suspension mods etc and then drop the 302 in it. Spending the money on a header that may or may not work well is just a waste of money.

08-03-2012, 05:40 AM	#8
Mark Ruset Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 263 Likes: 35 Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? Just make sure this combo has the potential to at least run the index if you are going class racing. Other wise it's just a waste of time and money. __________________ Mark Ruset 2048 STK

08-03-2012, 11:40 AM	#9
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? This engine combo can run the index in a Maverick or Comet, I get a slightly better flowing head and a little less weight, so I figure if I'm in the ballpark I should at least run the index. I personally think it'd be fun as hell to put a 200 with a 1bbl in the 15's. I like the oddballs. At this point, I have everything but a converter and cam, and by scrounging (thank you CL and ebay) and using some used parts I am in it $1500. Granted that is just collecting parts and I have yet to tear into the motor and trans. I found a header unused for $150. I'll probably start a build blog to share, good or bad. When someone says why, ask, why not? Last edited by Joe Toller; 08-03-2012 at 12:41 PM. Reason: Forgot a detail

08-03-2012, 12:30 PM	#10
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Inline six/fox body header? If it doesn't run the number, I can put that 200 in another Fairmont with some more cam and carb on the street and then I'll go 302, but not until after I give the six a fair shot. Last edited by Joe Toller; 08-03-2012 at 12:43 PM.