Recommended Engine Oil ?

[1320racer]

if the engine clearances were set correctly and it had proper lubrication there's no reason the engine shouldn't "come apart looking really good".

Joe Gibbs oil is just the latest player in the game the internet crowd is talking up, before it, Brad Penn was the flavor of the day and before it Royal Purple.

All I know is that I've been using Mobil 1 for 26 years without issue despite the changing formulas and EPA mandates and my engines always come apart looking good and my last freshen up was after 500 passes seeing 8000 in the lights every weekend, 36 weekends a season.

Good luck finding a stock/super stock racer that puts half as many passes on his engine before freshening.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Good luck finding a stock/super stock racer that puts half as many passes on his engine before freshening.

Stock/Superstock engines are freshened for just that reason, to keep them fresh. Fresh ring seal and fresh valve seal.

Your not comparing apples to apples when you compare a S/SS motor to a throttle stop motor or a bracket motor.

If you have never dynoed Gibbs oils against "your oil", you might want too. There is HP to be had. But I guess when you can run an unlimited engine you don't need the extra 5 HP that a good oil can give you.

And yes, to answer your question, there are many S/SS motors with hundreds of runs on them. You are not the only racer who runs every weekend.

[1320racer]

Bob, I've been doing this a long time and I know there's a few HP to be had in oil but NOT when comparing like type and viscosities.

That said, I disagee with your claim, that "there are many S/SS motors with hundreds of runs on them" at least not in a single season. FYI, I have many friends that race stock and super stock and not one of them is putting hundreds of passes on their engine before freshening.

[Mike Pearson]

I had Lucas 20-50 in my car for break in then for class at the Gators I put in Lucas 0-20. I picked up 16 hundreths from the oil change. 12 hundreths first round and another 4 in the class final. Still did not have quite enough to beat the other car but made it close. I did not see much of a change in the oil pressure. I had been runnng either penzoil or mobile I 5-30 full synthetic. I recently had a lifter break so I decided to use a racing specific oil to see if it helpes with the lifter issue. So far I like the Lucas oil. For the summer in the heat I will probably go up to a 30 wt Lucas. I use a system one filter.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Uhh.... would any of the many Stock/SuperStock racers that are freinds with 1320 racer care to weigh in here? It seems somehow his expertese in every aspect of motorsports has somehow flown under the radar of mainstream Stk/SS racing how can this be? Is he only allowed to help the New Jersey racers? That hardly seems fair to the rest of us under developed wanna be racers. Asking for someones advice on what oil to use is and always will be personal preference, find someone who runs a similar combo to you and ask them what they're using and if they're happy with the results. If in fact 1320 has a similar combo and has in fact used Mobil 1 in it to his satisfaction then I retract most of my statements.Joe BTW I run Royal Purple cause I like the color.

[JRyan]

1320racer.
Just to let you know I pulled the engine out of my super stocker this past fall. It had just shy of 300 passes on it since it's last freshen. The last pass in bracket mode was still more then -1.00 under the index. So some stock and super stockers are more then capable of going that long and turning over 8000 in the lights. Although normally we wouldn't go that long. However, the new motor wasn't done and the engine in the car kept ticking so we stayed with it. We also had a stocker engine in the shop not long ago that was in that neighborhood as well. But, we also have used Mobil1 for years and it always looks good.

[1320racer]

Joe...what part of the truth and the facts don't you like?

[buzzinhalfdozen]

1320, Truth can be a matter of perception, Fact I've yet to see you post any relevent to the OP's question as I'm quite sure you DO NOT run anything even remotely close to his combo. To have a chance of answering his inquiry you would have to ask several questions, What bearing clearence?, what RPM range? Any mods to the oiling system?. You DID NOT ask any of these questions and know nothing about his oil requirements.... yet you post that Mobil1 is gods gift to engines. If all you have to add is "this is what my make my big block bracket car fly" then perhaps you should instill your obvious massive amounts of knowledge to the local bracket racers. So lets start with some TRUTH, I've asked several times"what class of Super Stock is E ?" So now I'll allow you to spread some "truth and Fact" the floor sir is now yours.... Enlighten us. Joe,BTW as you can see in my Sig. I race SS/BX and your class is.....

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

if the engine clearances were set correctly and it had proper lubrication there's no reason the engine shouldn't "come apart looking really good".

Joe Gibbs oil is just the latest player in the game the internet crowd is talking up, before it, Brad Penn was the flavor of the day and before it Royal Purple.

All I know is that I've been using Mobil 1 for 26 years without issue despite the changing formulas and EPA mandates and my engines always come apart looking good and my last freshen up was after 500 passes seeing 8000 in the lights every weekend, 36 weekends a season.

Good luck finding a stock/super stock racer that puts half as many passes on his engine before freshening.

And as you stated you have used Mobil 1 for 26 years without issue. Did you test any other oil? How would you know if they are good or bad? Ain't no internet crowd testing on my engine dyno or going down the track testing oils.Better look outside the box or your left behind! That's the Mobil 1 box.

[Phillip marvetz]

I'm surprised 1320 hasn't posted a pic on his car yet......

Brad Penn here. Only lost 1 engine so far with it.