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Old 04-18-2012, 12:40 PM   #1
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THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
THAT SAID...We get it. You don't!
THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:36 PM   #2
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THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
correction, he asked for opinions and all that replied gave theirs.
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THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
he also said that a year ago when he signed on. The fact is his car is a bracket car and he a bracket racer!
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THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
so did everyone that replied
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THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
don't matter, his is NOT a class car!
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THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
and your super stock amx isn't this firebird that is a bracket car!
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THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
he asked about running radial slicks on a bracket car!
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THAT SAID...We get it. You don't!
it's obvious that's it YOU that don't get it
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THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
this coming from the guy that self proclaims to be..."Arizona's BEST Realtor"

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Old 04-18-2012, 05:49 PM   #3
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correction, he asked for opinions and all that replied gave theirs.
Sure, we all know you have options that you feel everybody needs to hear, time after time...But, he asked about slicks on his Gen 1 Firebird which uses a leaf spring. Much different than a Chevelle.
he also said that a year ago when he signed on. The fact is his car is a bracket car and he a bracket racer!
Nice to know you keep a dosier on everybody here. But I can't see that it's relevant that a year ago he said he wanted to move into Class racing his Firebird and he has not made the move (yet). Is the fact he hasn't made the transition (yet) make his questions irrelevant? It appears to me you are quite sure he will never make the move. But either way, that's his dream and if so, good for him. At least he has set some goals.
so did everyone that replied

don't matter, his is NOT a class car!
and your super stock amx isn't this firebird that is a bracket car!
I have both Stock & Super Stock numbers. But it does have a leaf spring suspension with Calvert bars like the OP. And again, he is stating he wants to make the car a Class car.
he asked about running radial slicks on a bracket car!
And I made comments to both radials and bias slicks. Did you miss that? As I'm not his sponsor and do not plan on sending him slicks to try, it's the OP's decision to make. That's why he asked for advice or opinions, whichever.
it's obvious that's it YOU that don't get it
Coming from a guy that doesn't have a Class car, posts on Class Racer about Class cars, bemoans those that race class cars and continuously takes every opportunity to brag about a bracket car he know longer even posseses and constantly insists there is something uniquly special and superior of his Gen 4 Firebird in comparison to Class racers rides, no, I guess I don't get it!

this coming from the guy that self proclaims to be..."Arizona's BEST Realtor"
Where do you see that? Again, that's from your dossier file because I haven't used that in years and it is not on my signature or even profile. Hasn't been for years. But I have already made sales approaching $3,000,000 on my own this year and it's only April. So I'll bet I'm a top 1% in Arizona. Thanks for asking!

Back to your mirror. I have to get back to work.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:22 PM   #4
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You didn't mention weight in the trunk. Most stickers have considerable weight back there; high and way back. That helps considerably with consistancy and even ET. I'd suggest you get it to work on a set of bias slicks first. Once your there, it will only get better with radials.
Don't forget 9" wide wheels are also an option.
THAT SAID: Not stirring the pot here Jeff, just curious about why to start with bias tires. Cost? Consistency? Easier to get a car to 'work' with bias tires than radials ?
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:42 PM   #5
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Change the front springs, they are cheap and easy. Then put the CO6 Hoosier 30/9 92.5 on it and run it,then start working on the chasis for your stock eliminator endeavor.
Start out with 20-22 lbs of PSI.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:28 PM   #6
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Change the front springs, they are cheap and easy. Then put the CO6 Hoosier 30/9 92.5 on it and run it,then start working on the chasis for your stock eliminator endeavor.
Start out with 20-22 lbs of PSI.
THanks Monte... i will definitely do that when i go to radials...

thanks everyone for replies...
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:09 AM   #7
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Once you get it working good, go test and go up 2 psi at a time till it spins. You will pick up et From 22 psi on, I would not be surprised to see you end up running around 26 psi.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:50 AM   #8
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THAT SAID: Not stirring the pot here Jeff, just curious about why to start with bias tires. Cost? Consistency? Easier to get a car to 'work' with bias tires than radials ?
A radial slick is definitely faster. BUT, if there's a problem with traction for some reason, it will kill more ET than a bias slick; i.e., radials won't recover like a bias can. My thoughts are that since this is a new endeavor, get the car completely dialed in so it will hook consistently with the bias slicks. Then once it's dialed in, throw some radials on and just go faster. At that point, you will just be playing with different pressures. Another consideration is cost. Bias is cheaper and you should get more runs on bias slicks.
I know guys that save the radials only for the heads up or faster qualifying runs.
Now...since I run a stick, radials are presently not a viable option. My opinion here is based on all those slush box racers around me.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:32 AM   #9
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A radial slick is definitely faster. BUT, if there's a problem with traction for some reason, it will kill more ET than a bias slick; i.e., radials won't recover like a bias can. My thoughts are that since this is a new endeavor, get the car completely dialed in so it will hook consistently with the bias slicks. Then once it's dialed in, throw some radials on and just go faster. At that point, you will just be playing with different pressures. Another consideration is cost. Bias is cheaper and you should get more runs on bias slicks.
I know guys that save the radials only for the heads up or faster qualifying runs.
Now...since I run a stick, radials are presently not a viable option. My opinion here is based on all those slush box racers around me.
i've been told that radials and clutches don't go together too.
why? anybody ever try it?
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:07 AM   #10
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i've been told that radials and clutches don't go together too.
why? anybody ever try it?
Radials usually don't recover from tire spin and most stick cars are capable of spinning bias slicks.
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