1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker'

Chuck Norton · 01-01-2012, 08:39 PM

The earliest 383/343 example I can remember in Division 7 was a '62 Dodge driven by Jim Johnson (not THE Jimmie Johnson) of Hermosa Beach, California and later by Joe Ross. I recall that it was run regularly in 1963 and was a record holder in 1964 (see attachment). I believe that it was a Polara 2 dr. hardtop and I'm sure that it had bucket seats.

Paul Ceasrine · 01-01-2012, 09:00 PM

Chuck,

The mid-year (1962 1/2') 383/343 HP in the Dodge Polara 500
and/or Plymouth Sport Fury combination knocked off another Mopar
for B/SA in 1963.

In early-1963, the 'Hot Combination' for B/SA was the 1961 Plymouth Fury 'Hardtop Coupe' with the
'Optional Dodge Engine' (413/375 HP 'Cast iron In-line Dual-carbed engine).

But by mid-year 1963, the secret was out, and the 'lighter' 383/343 HP cars were out-running the 'bulky' 1961 Plymouth's.

treessavoy · 01-02-2012, 01:00 AM

Paul,

Was the 413 with the two inline fours ever a viable combo or raced by anyone?

JimR

Hemi Moose · 01-02-2012, 02:31 AM

Didn't Don Garlit's run a 62 Dodge with a 383 motor with inline carbs on it or was that a 413 with inline carbs, I'm not sure.

.

Geerhead55 · 01-02-2012, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

Didn't Dob Garlit's run a 62 Dodge with a 413 motor with inline carbs on it or was that a 383 with inline carbs, I'm not sure.

Dob Garlits????? I'm glad I'm not the only one who suffers from "Fat Finger" syndrome!
Danny Durham

Hemi Moose · 01-02-2012, 02:55 AM

oops...curious but did you check you pm's Gearhead because I didn't here anything back from you last week.

Paul Ceasrine · 01-02-2012, 08:13 AM

Jim,

When the NHRA changed the Stock Class Rules for 1963,,,,,,
expanding the classes,,,,,,,,,,,

Some of the early-1963 'Top Runners' for B/SA (9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp)
were the 1961 Plymouth Fury 'Hardtop Coupe' cars.

With the 'heavy' Torque-Flite casing, the cars weighed in at #3579 lbs.
And the 'optional' 413/375 HP engine was a perfect fit (9.54 Wt/Hp)
for the B/SA Class.

With 10.0 - 1 compression, solid lifter camshaft, Closed-chamber cylinder heads with 2.08 Intake / 1.60 Exhaust, Dual-point distributor, (#1854817) Cast iron In-line Dual-carbed intake with twin Carter AFB's (400 CFM).

They could run 13.50's,,,,,,,,,,

In 1963, not too many racers were running the newer 1962 and 1963 Mopar cars in the B/SA Class.

Seems like in early-1963, there was a 'small abundance' of 1961 Plymouth Fury's floating around (2-year old car).

Frank Castros · 01-02-2012, 10:47 AM

One of my favorite Mopar combinations and happy to see the Jerry Bennett / George Widuch team have success with their beautiful '62 Savoy.
I hope to see more cars with it for 2012 and I also believe it would be a great combo for SS/GT.

Paul Wong · 01-02-2012, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

One of my favorite Mopar combinations and happy to see the Jerry Bennett / George Widuch team have success with their beautiful '62 Savoy.
I hope to see more cars with it for 2012 and I also believe it would be a great combo for SS/GT.

You wont have to wait long in that case.

Hemi Moose · 01-03-2012, 08:31 PM

World Champion...what year would this have been in.

01-01-2012, 09:00 PM	#2
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' Chuck, The mid-year (1962 1/2') 383/343 HP in the Dodge Polara 500 and/or Plymouth Sport Fury combination knocked off another Mopar for B/SA in 1963. In early-1963, the 'Hot Combination' for B/SA was the 1961 Plymouth Fury 'Hardtop Coupe' with the 'Optional Dodge Engine' (413/375 HP 'Cast iron In-line Dual-carbed engine). But by mid-year 1963, the secret was out, and the 'lighter' 383/343 HP cars were out-running the 'bulky' 1961 Plymouth's. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 01-04-2012 at 12:10 AM.

01-02-2012, 02:31 AM	#4
Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' Didn't *Don Garlit's* run a 62 Dodge with a 383 motor with inline carbs on it or was that a 413 with inline carbs, I'm not sure. . Last edited by Hemi Moose; 01-02-2012 at 02:58 AM.

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Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' oops...curious but did you check you pm's Gearhead because I didn't here anything back from you last week.

01-02-2012, 08:13 AM	#7
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' Jim, When the NHRA changed the Stock Class Rules for 1963,,,,,, expanding the classes,,,,,,,,,,, Some of the early-1963 'Top Runners' for B/SA (9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp) were the 1961 Plymouth Fury 'Hardtop Coupe' cars. With the 'heavy' Torque-Flite casing, the cars weighed in at #3579 lbs. And the 'optional' 413/375 HP engine was a perfect fit (9.54 Wt/Hp) for the B/SA Class. With 10.0 - 1 compression, solid lifter camshaft, Closed-chamber cylinder heads with 2.08 Intake / 1.60 Exhaust, Dual-point distributor, (#1854817) Cast iron In-line Dual-carbed intake with twin Carter AFB's (400 CFM). They could run 13.50's,,,,,,,,,, In 1963, not too many racers were running the newer 1962 and 1963 Mopar cars in the B/SA Class. Seems like in early-1963, there was a 'small abundance' of 1961 Plymouth Fury's floating around (2-year old car). Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 01-02-2012 at 08:46 AM.

01-02-2012, 10:47 AM	#8
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,009 Likes: 2,693 Liked 2,765 Times in 978 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' One of my favorite Mopar combinations and happy to see the Jerry Bennett / George Widuch team have success with their beautiful '62 Savoy. I hope to see more cars with it for 2012 and I also believe it would be a great combo for SS/GT.

01-01-2012, 08:39 PM	#1
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 114 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' The earliest 383/343 example I can remember in Division 7 was a '62 Dodge driven by Jim Johnson (not THE Jimmie Johnson) of Hermosa Beach, California and later by Joe Ross. I recall that it was run regularly in 1963 and was a record holder in 1964 (see attachment). I believe that it was a Polara 2 dr. hardtop and I'm sure that it had bucket seats. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Chuck Norton

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Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: 1962 Mopar 383/343 HP 'Stocker' World Champion...what year would this have been in.