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Old 07-10-2011, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

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In stock, is it OK to just have the two-step wired to the button on the shifter?

I don't think it is. The rules state that a two step must be pedal activated. Get any clarification in writing from Glendora.
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:18 AM   #2
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

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I don't think it is. The rules state that a two step must be pedal activated. Get any clarification in writing from Glendora.
I have to agree with Alan on this one!!!
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

Thanks guys...I was afraid you'd say that...

With a stick shift car, I don't see what the problem is having the switch on the shifter. It's harder to drive with it there...hooking it up to the clutch pedal looks like a pain! And, everytime you adjust the clutch, it's going to affect the timing of the switch on the pedal?
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

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Thanks guys...I was afraid you'd say that...

With a stick shift car, I don't see what the problem is having the switch on the shifter. It's harder to drive with it there...hooking it up to the clutch pedal looks like a pain! And, everytime you adjust the clutch, it's going to affect the timing of the switch on the pedal?
Exactly. When I ran Stock I had the line-lock & stage RPM on the t-handle. I had a separate button on the reverse lever for the line-lock with a burnout RPM. No toggle switches to arm. The launch was all in my right thumb and left ankle. I'll betcha' one could come up with more funny business with all the wiring on the pedals and behind the dash than out in the open where I had my wires!
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:20 AM   #5
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

If you adjust your clutch correctly, you won't have trouble with the switch. And all you have to do to adjust the switch is tweak the "flag" or "arm" a little, which is easily done as well.

Set up your clutch pedal with a stop under it, adjust the switch so that the switch opens as soon as the clutch pedal comes off the stop. When you stage, mash the clutch pedal until it hits the stop. As soon as you start to come off the clutch, the two step will come off instantly.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:09 AM   #6
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Default Re: Line lock and Two step in a clutch car

We have an Omron Momentary switch on the pedal. It is the one that everyone sells for about 75 bucks, but can be found on fleabay much cheaper. It is a super heavy duty switch and has an arm with a roller wheel on it. We have it mounted right on the pedal and it deactivates the 2 step when the pedal comes off the floor. You can adjust the switch pretty easily, but I have found that it isn't as picky as I thought it would be. On the racepak, there is no spike of rpm or delay of release off of the 2 step as the clutch engages. You would have to move the clutch pedal a long way to have to readjust it.

I never did understand the concern with a stick car's 2 step. The action that moves the car is the foot release of the clutch pedal. 2 step switch or not, the foot action on the pedal is what moves the car.
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I never did understand the concern with a stick car's 2 step. The action that moves the car is the foot release of the clutch pedal. 2 step switch or not, the foot action on the pedal is what moves the car.
An automatic car functions the same. I have no idea where people got the idea that you can release a two step button with your hand and it will launch an automatic car.

If you leave your foot on the brakes in an automatic car and release the two step button, the car won't actually launch, but if it has plenty of HP, it'll blow the tires off. We tried it, just to see if all of the B.S. had any factual basis behind it. No, releasing the two step with your hand won't "launch" the car, and it won't "knock your foot off the brake pedal", either. Even if a car would hook up, and it would launch, the drag on the pedal would be so inconsistent you couldn't get any sort of a consistent launch or 60' time.

Most people know the orange 69 Camaro that Kevin has hooks in a car wash. It may not have the most HP around, but it isn't a complete stone. You can't use a button to turn off the two step and leave your foot on the brake, if you have any hope of the car actually launching. It will sit still and blow the tires off though.
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