Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

Thanks Mike !

I see a 1995 Town Car Cartier could technically run U/SA......hmmm......

I miss spoke, the car is actually a 1994 with the 4.6....

The question I have is the 4.6 capable of making this 3800 lb behemoth run under the index. I can get the car for nothing or next to it...
What would it take to get under index. Gears, convertor... WHere would you get some headers ?

[impstocker]

Billy, here was my bothers V/SA Nova 1984?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-Xp3gMWuw"]VSA Nova - YouTube[/ame]

[K Stubbs]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Okay, since I have already let the cat out of the bag on the other thread, I will start with my favorite, the '76 or '77 Camaro, '78 Camaro LT or '78 Firebird Formula, or '79 Camaro Berlinetta with a 305 2-bbl for U/SA. The pluses for this combination and the potential makes it a must look at in my opinion.

The engine is basically the same as the one Billy Lynn and Dean Oliver race in their Malibus in K & L. The only difference is the carb and a smaller intake valve (which may be a plus with the smaller carb!). Those Malibus run 11.80s consistently at 3250 lbs, so we can get a guage on the potential of the U combination from that. If you allow that the switch to a 2-bbl will chop a full second off and the added weight for U (3770 lbs. minimum) will slow by another .6 or so, the U combination should run mid 13s in a class with a 15.15 index. I see lots of potential there to be a competitor.

Then, consider that the 200 Metric or 200R4 is available and the car will be equipped with a GM 8.5" ten bolt. The 200 is a transmission of choice in lots of classes and the 8.5 is plenty strong enough with stock parts for this combo. The body has leaf springs so traction is easy and the plethora of available bolt-ons makes used parts easy to find. There have been several racers over the years chase combinations using the Rochester 2-bbl, so even the carb is not exactly an unknown.

I see lots of affordable potential in these combinations. I think the big problem for most people would be resisting the temptation to go overboard with the cosmetics and tricks that are available and applicable for the engine and car.

Dwight, remember when you and dad built our first 305? It had the wrong heads (two barrel) and we thought we were going to pick up a bunch when we went to the four barrell heads. It was worth nothing, so you are right it should favor the two barrel more.

[Dwight Southerland]

Kevin - Yes I do remember. That was one of the tidbits of info I was using in my analysis.

When are you going to race your beast? It cost a bit more than a dime, didn't it!

[K Stubbs]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Kevin - Yes I do remember. That was one of the tidbits of info I was using in my analysis.

When are you going to race your beast? It cost a bit more than a dime, didn't it!

Yes sir, I stopped counting at 40k lol it was starting to hurt my feelings. My engine is getting dynoed/freshened up for BG and Indy, so hopefully in a few weeks. Great post, I knew you and Billy would be great at doing this and to be honest if I knew this could be done for 5k, I would put up the money just to show everyone it could be done. Might encourage some people to do the same on a limited budget. Great ideas.

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by K Stubbs

Yes sir, I stopped counting at 40k lol it was starting to hurt my feelings. My engine is getting dynoed/freshened up for BG and Indy, so hopefully in a few weeks. Great post, I knew you and Billy would be great at doing this and to be honest if I knew this could be done for 5k, I would put up the money just to show everyone it could be done. Might encourage some people to do the same on a limited budget. Great ideas.

Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

[K Stubbs]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

Thats exactly what I was thinking.....I think we should seriously think about it, it would be fun to see if we could find the right "project budget stocker" to build for the least amount of money and be competitive in a lower class. Would definately get attention.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

Well, there was R.V's C/SM Camaro and Arlen's Maverick...... why not???

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Okay, since I have already let the cat out of the bag on the other thread, I will start with my favorite, the '76 or '77 Camaro, '78 Camaro LT or '78 Firebird Formula, or '79 Camaro Berlinetta with a 305 2-bbl for U/SA. The pluses for this combination and the potential makes it a must look at in my opinion.
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If I read this right, a 79 Firebird with a shipping weight of 3358 LBS would have a weight break of 18.66 and fall into R/SA. The index is 14.05 ?

[Frank Castros]

This thread is what class racing is all about. Way cool.