Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall?

Tim Ellis · 07-01-2011, 10:32 AM

Thank you !

Jeff Lee · 07-01-2011, 08:02 PM

Re-shoe with a fork-lift brake shoe material. It is softer

Tim Ellis · 07-01-2011, 08:22 PM

I got my shoes relined today with some super whammy supposed trick stuff, we'll see if it helps. I do know my shoes and drums were quite glazed. I don't have a line lock, so I have the brakes on during my burnout, and I'm sure that ain't helpin anything except the glzing issue.

rick lester · 07-01-2011, 08:48 PM

Tim, I agree with both James and Jeff, but there other things you can do. What kind of car are you running? I'm assuming this is a street/strip car since you have power brakes. You could install an adjustable brake prop. valve but thats not the best idea. Yes, that would give you more rear brake pressure but then you run the risk of rear brake lock up if the race is real tight. Another is a master cylinder that has more capacity for the rear brakes and bigger wheel cylinders along with the softer shoes. If you do alot of street driving with the car, bigger brakes wouldn't be a bad idea, but you will have to add bigger wheels and tires to fit the bigger brakes. An extra ten feet of stopping distance could mean you can still race that night instead of having it towed home and a ticket for a rear end collision. Study what you have and look up parts that are bigger and bolt on from the parts store. I found out front brake calipers from a mid 90's camaro with v8 will bolt up to my 86 Olds Delta fwd, and they have a bigger piston. Rick.

Tim Ellis · 07-01-2011, 10:04 PM

1989 O/sa and N/sa Stocker Mustang, all stock brakes except new shoes I'll be tryin. Has plenty big rear tire, 30/9/15 Hoosier radials. If the shoes don't work I'll see how James idea works, if not, it's back to the drawing board, or take a bump.

Geerhead55 · 07-05-2011, 09:42 PM

Tim,, you know you should really look into getting a Line-Loc or Roll-Control for your Mustang, just from a wear and tear standpoint on the rear brakes during your burnouts. They're not that hard to install, fun out on the street also and rather inexpensive.
Take care,,,Danny Durham

Tim Ellis · 07-05-2011, 09:52 PM

Yeah, I almost ordered one, but after trying the new brakes I was uninspired. It stalls pretty much the same. I will consider the line lock later, but while reinstalling the exhaust today I found I've got bigger fish to fry. I've never installed sub frame connectors or welded the control arm attaching points and I found things which need some attention. I spoke to Jim Coughlin and he's gonna do some welding for me soon Thanks

07-01-2011, 10:32 AM	#1
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? Thank you !

07-01-2011, 08:02 PM	#2
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? Re-shoe with a fork-lift brake shoe material. It is softer __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

07-01-2011, 08:22 PM	#3
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? I got my shoes relined today with some super whammy supposed trick stuff, we'll see if it helps. I do know my shoes and drums were quite glazed. I don't have a line lock, so I have the brakes on during my burnout, and I'm sure that ain't helpin anything except the glzing issue.

07-01-2011, 08:48 PM	#4
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? Tim, I agree with both James and Jeff, but there other things you can do. What kind of car are you running? I'm assuming this is a street/strip car since you have power brakes. You could install an adjustable brake prop. valve but thats not the best idea. Yes, that would give you more rear brake pressure but then you run the risk of rear brake lock up if the race is real tight. Another is a master cylinder that has more capacity for the rear brakes and bigger wheel cylinders along with the softer shoes. If you do alot of street driving with the car, bigger brakes wouldn't be a bad idea, but you will have to add bigger wheels and tires to fit the bigger brakes. An extra ten feet of stopping distance could mean you can still race that night instead of having it towed home and a ticket for a rear end collision. Study what you have and look up parts that are bigger and bolt on from the parts store. I found out front brake calipers from a mid 90's camaro with v8 will bolt up to my 86 Olds Delta fwd, and they have a bigger piston. Rick.

07-01-2011, 10:04 PM	#5
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? 1989 O/sa and N/sa Stocker Mustang, all stock brakes except new shoes I'll be tryin. Has plenty big rear tire, 30/9/15 Hoosier radials. If the shoes don't work I'll see how James idea works, if not, it's back to the drawing board, or take a bump.

07-05-2011, 09:42 PM	#6
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? Tim,, you know you should really look into getting a Line-Loc or Roll-Control for your Mustang, just from a wear and tear standpoint on the rear brakes during your burnouts. They're not that hard to install, fun out on the street also and rather inexpensive. Take care,,,Danny Durham

07-05-2011, 09:52 PM	#7
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Will softer or bigger brakes increase foot brake stall? Yeah, I almost ordered one, but after trying the new brakes I was uninspired. It stalls pretty much the same. I will consider the line lock later, but while reinstalling the exhaust today I found I've got bigger fish to fry. I've never installed sub frame connectors or welded the control arm attaching points and I found things which need some attention. I spoke to Jim Coughlin and he's gonna do some welding for me soon Thanks