SUGGESTIONS (serious ones)

X-TECH MAN · 12-11-2010, 07:52 PM

For disscusion purpose If a different place to race was avaliable in the future that paid very well what would you REALLY consider to be important rules to race by in your program and style of racing? ET's, electronics, weight, body styles, chassis types. Forget what you race under now in NHRA and IHRA and start with a clean sheet of paper. Would the chance to run for better pay outs sway you into by passing an NHRA event to run with another scantioning body or race venue or is the "WALLY" the most important thing to you. Is a "Points Championship" such as you have now spread out over a season more important than the chance to race for a much larger purse?
Id like to see some SERIOUS answers instead of just complaints about the big MPH vs the slower MPH cars or the T-Stop issues.
Thanks.
Terry Bell

Cisco Kid · 12-11-2010, 08:56 PM

i pass up nhra races to go to high dollar bracket races,yea the wally is great,but its not everything! for divisionl events,you spend 3 to 4 days there make what 1 and maybe 2 runs a day,i rather spend 300 bucks for a bracket race,where you get alot of runs! with 3 seperate days of racing,also golf cart races,and other things..the doorslammer open at trails was fun also...i would like to see some bracket races where they pair dragsters on one side of the ladder and cars on the other then have a draw in the semis to either pit dragster vs dragster or car vs dragster semi final matches....
now i loved the way trails ran unleashed,i love the format and they gave us a bonus time trial since no one dirtied up the track,and fridays test and tune was only 25 bucks...my dad refuses to run anything other than nhra races cause he knows no different,but i rather bracket race...but thats my 2 cents!

CBS · 12-12-2010, 09:07 AM

Personally I like to run for a series championship.....

Rock Haas

Maverick · 12-12-2010, 11:52 AM

Personally, if I had the choice between a Unleashed race and a divisional race in super gas, I would go to the Unleashed race. I am at a disadvantage at the NHRA super gas class, even though that is typically what I race all the time. The Unleashed levels the competition.

chebby2 · 12-12-2010, 01:00 PM

I go to see Rock

Bob Verwold · 12-12-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chebby2

I go to see Rock

And watch him win..........lol

Chris Williams · 12-12-2010, 03:39 PM

This is a very interesting question and has had me thinking for a while. We race in a couple of series, a local SC association and the NHRA divisionals (and/or nationals...).

The payouts in the association dwarf the others, even though it's fewer racers. The association just turns more back to the racers. But that's not why we race there. The people are amazing, and the competition is tough, some really top-notch SC racers. And the fact that they hold double-headers means we get more hits in two days that we do in a four day divisional. The racing for the association championship is tight, and a lot of fun.

But we do race for the divisional (and/or national) points. There's something about all those cars, some folks you rarely get to race, and some really really good racers that makes it worth it. Yes, I hate four days with only hit or two a day. Yes, I hate the often random organization. And yes, the douche bags who take it all so dang seriously, and always seem to get bent out of shape, rain on the fun of it. But chasing those points, racing people who are really good, seems to make us come back. At one point this year, we were 8th in the division, with the top five in sight, that was fun. And oh, yeah, there's that trophy...

In the last year, it's actually been good to have TD and TS for us. It's given a place for all those people who just have to go faster and faster. Those guys for whom a 6 or a 2 at the front of the ET or MPH is all that matters. Some good racers, but they aren't racing in SC just to go fast. That's probably a good thing.

For suggestions, I guess I'd like to be on the stop for a shorter time. So I'd like to bump the index. And it would make everyone's life better if they were round numbers: 8.00, 9.00, etc. so that even an idiot could figure it out. To do that, you have to have a place for the people who can't go 8.00, so I'd like to see the 9.00 class allow dragsters. Maybe even add an 11.00 class as the entry point.

That's my suggestions, period. Don't need a bigger payout to make us race (although money is a nice thing). Just more of the same.

Chris

billy leber · 12-12-2010, 10:05 PM

Attention anyone who wins a big dollar race, im willing to trade one of my wallys in exchange for the purse you won! lol no takers huh ? I also have a friend with many wallys who will also take that deal. I do feel fortunate to have some but my offer still stands. lol again

Cisco Kid · 12-12-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by billy leber

Attention anyone who wins a big dollar race, im willing to trade one of my wallys in exchange for the purse you won! lol no takers huh ? I also have a friend with many wallys who will also take that deal. I do feel fortunate to have some but my offer still stands. lol again

i agree billy...that big happy gilmore check is great :-) and in most cases in order to be holding that big check,at the end of a high dollar bracket race,you gotta be damn near 000 on the hit and dead on th big end...i know at any race,sanction,or type ot takes a good package and some luck to win,but when you are in those big $$ races and you line up agains people like luke bogacki,the folks,the richadsons,the pressure is on cause you know them guys have won numerous times...i just think competition is what drives people to different races,i personally like to compete against the best,if i lose so what if i beat a heavy hitter i'm yelling hell ya,when i see the win light come on...but it seems now no matter where you turn there is always stiff competiton...and not very many cars or drivers you can point out and say he's a duck,and i am following him to the lanes!

Ken MacNicol · 12-13-2010, 03:30 PM

I think that if they, NHRA &IHRA, did not make local racers get a number to run a divisional or national they might get a few more entries in all the .90 classes.

12-11-2010, 07:52 PM	#1
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) For disscusion purpose If a different place to race was avaliable in the future that paid very well what would you REALLY consider to be important rules to race by in your program and style of racing? ET's, electronics, weight, body styles, chassis types. Forget what you race under now in NHRA and IHRA and start with a clean sheet of paper. Would the chance to run for better pay outs sway you into by passing an NHRA event to run with another scantioning body or race venue or is the "WALLY" the most important thing to you. Is a "Points Championship" such as you have now spread out over a season more important than the chance to race for a much larger purse? Id like to see some SERIOUS answers instead of just complaints about the big MPH vs the slower MPH cars or the T-Stop issues. Thanks. Terry Bell

12-11-2010, 08:56 PM	#2
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) i pass up nhra races to go to high dollar bracket races,yea the wally is great,but its not everything! for divisionl events,you spend 3 to 4 days there make what 1 and maybe 2 runs a day,i rather spend 300 bucks for a bracket race,where you get alot of runs! with 3 seperate days of racing,also golf cart races,and other things..the doorslammer open at trails was fun also...i would like to see some bracket races where they pair dragsters on one side of the ladder and cars on the other then have a draw in the semis to either pit dragster vs dragster or car vs dragster semi final matches.... now i loved the way trails ran unleashed,i love the format and they gave us a bonus time trial since no one dirtied up the track,and fridays test and tune was only 25 bucks...my dad refuses to run anything other than nhra races cause he knows no different,but i rather bracket race...but thats my 2 cents!

12-12-2010, 09:07 AM	#3
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) Personally I like to run for a series championship..... Rock Haas

12-12-2010, 11:52 AM	#4
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 2 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) Personally, if I had the choice between a Unleashed race and a divisional race in super gas, I would go to the Unleashed race. I am at a disadvantage at the NHRA super gas class, even though that is typically what I race all the time. The Unleashed levels the competition.

12-12-2010, 01:00 PM	#5
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) I go to see Rock

12-12-2010, 03:39 PM	#7
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) This is a very interesting question and has had me thinking for a while. We race in a couple of series, a local SC association and the NHRA divisionals (and/or nationals...). The payouts in the association dwarf the others, even though it's fewer racers. The association just turns more back to the racers. But that's not why we race there. The people are amazing, and the competition is tough, some really top-notch SC racers. And the fact that they hold double-headers means we get more hits in two days that we do in a four day divisional. The racing for the association championship is tight, and a lot of fun. But we do race for the divisional (and/or national) points. There's something about all those cars, some folks you rarely get to race, and some really really good racers that makes it worth it. Yes, I hate four days with only hit or two a day. Yes, I hate the often random organization. And yes, the douche bags who take it all so dang seriously, and always seem to get bent out of shape, rain on the fun of it. But chasing those points, racing people who are really good, seems to make us come back. At one point this year, we were 8th in the division, with the top five in sight, that was fun. And oh, yeah, there's that trophy... In the last year, it's actually been good to have TD and TS for us. It's given a place for all those people who just have to go faster and faster. Those guys for whom a 6 or a 2 at the front of the ET or MPH is all that matters. Some good racers, but they aren't racing in SC just to go fast. That's probably a good thing. For suggestions, I guess I'd like to be on the stop for a shorter time. So I'd like to bump the index. And it would make everyone's life better if they were round numbers: 8.00, 9.00, etc. so that even an idiot could figure it out. To do that, you have to have a place for the people who can't go 8.00, so I'd like to see the 9.00 class allow dragsters. Maybe even add an 11.00 class as the entry point. That's my suggestions, period. Don't need a bigger payout to make us race (although money is a nice thing). Just more of the same. Chris __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

12-12-2010, 10:05 PM	#8
billy leber Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: most places Posts: 211 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) Attention anyone who wins a big dollar race, im willing to trade one of my wallys in exchange for the purse you won! lol no takers huh ? I also have a friend with many wallys who will also take that deal. I do feel fortunate to have some but my offer still stands. lol again __________________ Billy Leber 1150 SS, 1050 SG, 1962 STK, 185 SC

12-13-2010, 03:30 PM	#10
Ken MacNicol Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hendersonville, Tn. Posts: 84 Likes: 916 Liked 26 Times in 12 Posts	Re: SUGGESTIONS (serious ones) I think that if they, NHRA &IHRA, did not make local racers get a number to run a divisional or national they might get a few more entries in all the .90 classes.