What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See

TS310C · 12-09-2010, 10:53 AM

For all of you that want to eliminate timers, how do you propose we slow our cars down then? Run the stop the entire length of the track or use a high gear stop? Sounds like a huge step backwards to me.

I will admit that I agree the class is terrible for the spectators. But I honestly don't care. Our classes support themselves. We pay for everything with our entry fees. I race for me, not for the spectators (all 10 of them). I will also admit that I enjoyed racing T/S much more than the super classes. But we soon found out that after the class was contested for a few years it got fast enough that it took more money than I was willing to spend and more crew help than I had available. It was very fun going fast and having spectators interested in your class. But that all comes with a price. So far I have not heard any ideas on changes that I think will make any difference on spectators. Unless we do a 5' wheel stand or run in the 6's, most people wont care to watch us.

Just my opinion.

billy leber · 12-09-2010, 01:02 PM

I can go 170 in S/G and I would still like to see throttle stops gone. Why spend $25000 on a motor when you can run 9.90 with a sub $10000 motor. Same pay out less expense, makes sense to me.

TS310C · 12-09-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billy leber

I can go 170 in S/G and I would still like to see throttle stops gone. Why spend $25000 on a motor when you can run 9.90 with a sub $10000 motor. Same pay out less expense, makes sense to me.

I do see your point. But for those of us that already have the equipment to go 170 what are we supposed to do with it? Sell it for .50 on the dollar and by a smaller motor? I also think there are a number of racers (myself included) that like to go fast and don't want to slow down. I don't think it is near as exciting to go 140 as it is to go 170+. If I wanted to go slow I would be racing stock.

jmcarter · 12-09-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TS310C

.... If I wanted to go slow I would be racing stock.

Ouch! You better hope Ed or a host of others don't accidentally wander into the the .90 section of the forum. Course it could be entertaining...Class Wars XXX

TS310C · 12-09-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

Ouch! You better hope Ed or a host of others don't accidentally wander into the the .90 section of the forum. Course it could be entertaining...Class Wars XXX

Ok, maybe that wasn't fair after further review. But I think you all know what I was trying to say. I don't mean anything against stock, it's a fine class it's just not for me. My point was that I don't have any interest in racing a car that goes 140-145mph or less, which is what you would have if your car only ran 9.90 flat out.

Bryan Gillespie · 12-09-2010, 04:29 PM

What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See ?
back 1/2 ONLY and leave it alone.

Bryan Gillespie · 12-09-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See ?
back 1/2 ONLY and leave it alone.

for S/ST only ofcourse

billy leber · 12-10-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TS310C

I do see your point. But for those of us that already have the equipment to go 170 what are we supposed to do with it? Sell it for .50 on the dollar and by a smaller motor? I also think there are a number of racers (myself included) that like to go fast and don't want to slow down. I don't think it is near as exciting to go 140 as it is to go 170+. If I wanted to go slow I would be racing stock.

I respect your opinion,but to me , going 140 in my super stocker or 170 in my super gas car dosent feel much different after about the third run of the year. I guess this is unfortunate for me! lol

Tom Goldman · 12-10-2010, 02:25 PM

I dont understand the bitchin about the tree.
My old car at 2750# and a 30year old 468 still had .020 to .030 in the box on a .370 tree.
They put all those holes in the 4 link and knobs on the shocks fo a reason ya know!
I have to run as much as .080 in the box at the MASGA races on a true .4 tree..and let me tell you it sucks when you have that much in ,when you miss the tree, you REALLY miss the tree!

Rich Biebel · 12-10-2010, 02:55 PM

Geez Tom.....can you send me some of whatever your drinking cause it's making you fast as hell.....I need some!!!! ....Especially with my current wheels....

P.S. I mean that in a complimentary way.....

12-09-2010, 10:53 AM	#1
TS310C Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Morton, IL Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See For all of you that want to eliminate timers, how do you propose we slow our cars down then? Run the stop the entire length of the track or use a high gear stop? Sounds like a huge step backwards to me. I will admit that I agree the class is terrible for the spectators. But I honestly don't care. Our classes support themselves. We pay for everything with our entry fees. I race for me, not for the spectators (all 10 of them). I will also admit that I enjoyed racing T/S much more than the super classes. But we soon found out that after the class was contested for a few years it got fast enough that it took more money than I was willing to spend and more crew help than I had available. It was very fun going fast and having spectators interested in your class. But that all comes with a price. So far I have not heard any ideas on changes that I think will make any difference on spectators. Unless we do a 5' wheel stand or run in the 6's, most people wont care to watch us. Just my opinion. __________________ Ryan Koener S/G 310C

12-09-2010, 01:02 PM	#2
billy leber Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: most places Posts: 211 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See I can go 170 in S/G and I would still like to see throttle stops gone. Why spend $25000 on a motor when you can run 9.90 with a sub $10000 motor. Same pay out less expense, makes sense to me. __________________ Billy Leber 1150 SS, 1050 SG, 1962 STK, 185 SC

12-09-2010, 04:29 PM	#6
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See ? back 1/2 ONLY and leave it alone.

12-10-2010, 02:25 PM	#9
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,478 Likes: 894 Liked 886 Times in 238 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See I dont understand the bitchin about the tree. My old car at 2750# and a 30year old 468 still had .020 to .030 in the box on a .370 tree. They put all those holes in the 4 link and knobs on the shocks fo a reason ya know! I have to run as much as .080 in the box at the MASGA races on a true .4 tree..and let me tell you it sucks when you have that much in ,when you miss the tree, you REALLY miss the tree! __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK Last edited by Tom Goldman; 12-10-2010 at 05:09 PM.

12-10-2010, 02:55 PM	#10
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,320 Likes: 25 Liked 555 Times in 216 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See Geez Tom.....can you send me some of whatever your drinking cause it's making you fast as hell.....I need some!!!! ....Especially with my current wheels.... P.S. I mean that in a complimentary way..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 12-10-2010 at 03:21 PM.