New AHFS 2011

[jmantle]

Jim,

We are not going to use all qualifying runs, which is why it reads “final qualifying runs and all elimination runs.” It’s no different than this year, or years past. With that said you are correct, what ever the is listed on the final qualifying sheet will be used in the review process.

Pat Cvengros

Technical Services Representative

In regards to Toby's question
Jim Mantle
div 6 S/SS

[Ed Wright]

So, you hit the review trigger four times in qualifyimg, and only one of them counts?

[Toby Lang]

Thanks a lot, Jim. I was told last season that one person could get flagged twice during qualifying at the same race. Maybe I misunderstood or got the wrong info, but when I asked this same question in the other AHFS thread that Mike Crutchfield started he said:

Originally Posted by Mike Crutchfield

And yes ALL runs count including all class runs and all LODRS runs. The wording can be a little confusing to me also.

I'm glad it's all cleared up now.


-Toby

[Bernie Cunningham]

So, what if ?????

On one given weekend, at two different race tracks anywhere in the country, the same combo car (i.e. DP with same motor), which is two different cars with different drivers, go faster than 1.20 under to trigger an auto HP hit, does it get hit TWICE ??????

[countrypuppy4865]

Bernie,
Good Point if this would have been in effect DP 5.7 would have been rated at about 390 by the time it left Indy!

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham

So, what if ?????

On one given weekend, at two different race tracks anywhere in the country, the same combo car (i.e. DP with same motor), which is two different cars with different drivers, go faster than 1.20 under to trigger an auto HP hit, does it get hit TWICE ??????

Bernie, I believe the answer is "no". Last year, I believe Roy Johnson and someone in Division 4 (maybe Dempsey Pendarvis) both ran fast enough for automatic HP. I asked, and was told no, it only gets hit once. I would guess now, with the tiered HP hits, the fastest of the two runs would be used to hit the combination (i.e., if one car is -1.20 and another -1.40, the -1.40 penalty would be applied). I could be wrong.

[Bernie Cunningham]

Mike, that's my exact problem with the current 'setup'. I know it happened last year and I have a hard time believing that it doesn't affect the AHFS twice !!!

[Mike Carr]

True. I don't what, if any, amendments will be made for 2011.

Using my scenario of -1.20 and -1.40, last year, it would have received one hit, the standard 3.25% hit for ANY run, regardless of how quick. This year, -1.40 will receive a 7.25% hit. So in that sense, it would be better this year. IF they use a 'quickest run/most severe penalty' rule. Time will tell, I guess.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham

Mike, that's my exact problem with the current 'setup'. I know it happened last year and I have a hard time believing that it doesn't affect the AHFS twice !!!

Bernie, are you saying you think a combination should be hit twice if two different cars go 1.25 under on the same weekend?