Super class survey

Tom Joseph · 12-06-2010, 03:04 PM

I hope all of you think this out. As I get older I seem to be more thoughtfull of others and what I believe is if NHRA makes SG 8.90 and SC 7.90 they will lose part of their base. I have a SG car that will easily run 8.90 but some don't. Does NHRA think those that can't will just call up an engine builder and order a new 1000 HP motor for 15 to 25 grand just because NHRA and some people that didn't think this out said so. Nope won't happen they will go to IHRA or bracket race and the car counts will go down. NHRA is the one that stands to lose the most here so I am confused as to why they are even thinking of this. I'm emailing NHRA and say just what I have said here. Merry Christmas to all.

Bryan Gillespie · 12-06-2010, 03:08 PM

got mine, faster,faster
FYI it did say do not forward and to those who do there will be red lights in 2011, LMAO

PAT 3340 · 12-06-2010, 03:13 PM

scotty, do you sit at the computer all day???

Rick Bailey · 12-06-2010, 03:22 PM

Sorry kiddies,, if the classes change, Hayden and I will be done !.....................At best, (with fresh rebuild) I'm good for 8 teens................... I'll be damned if I spend 20g for and eng and convertor. And because some folks knocked the **** out of the indexes because of MPH.

Thats right ! I said it ...............lol

Rick

TS310C · 12-06-2010, 04:08 PM

I don't know that I have really spent much time thinking about this. I guess I can see both sides. For me, if I want to go faster I just enter S/C. I ran a couple of races with the Midwest Super Comp guys last year and had a blast. I was able to do that without NHRA changing any indexes. If some of the fast super comp cars want to go faster I suppose they could run T/D. There are some races that would be hard to qualify for, but that is what a 100hp shot of nitrous is for. LOL I don't know, a big part of me says leave well enough alone. If anyone actually thinks it will put more spectators in the stands they are dreaming. Until NHRA decides to give tickets away like ADRL and Norwalk they won't get any more spectators at these races.

I guess the other side is that these indexes have been the same since the inception of the class and all other classes have gotten faster. But then again, the super classes are different than the other classes.

Whatever, my brain hurts! LOL

chebby2 · 12-06-2010, 06:32 PM

It won't put fans in the stands. If you want that require all cars to do 5ft wheel stands. Leave well enough alone..

Jeremy Lehrke · 12-06-2010, 04:18 PM

Clutch Man-

1) There is hardly anyone in the stands that watch super class cars anyway...and the people that are there are usually standing as close to the finish line as possible, as high up as they can, most of which are either friends, family, or other racers.

2) If the indexes are adjusted all that is gonna happen in a year or two is that the guys who can still afford to .90 race will have motors/cars that are capable of running way under the index. Eventually the cars are going to be sitting on the stop like they are now, maybe not quite as long as now, but on the stop none the less.

In my opinion the .90 class cars should stay the same. Same tree, same index. If I wanna go faster I will, but I don't need it to be mandatory because NHRA changed the index in the class I'm running.

Just my .02

Lehrke

Dave Steltz · 12-06-2010, 04:41 PM

I got both ....SST and SG...heres my take..

Screw Div and Nat events, sitting around for days on end and getting a run here or there...

I'm going small association and bracket racing..

I love the Pro Tree part, just not the ridiculous entry fees and crappy payout...

And the Scotty rule...in todays environment, who cares...does anyone really think that some big hitters will all of a suddden go buy ex-pro stock cars, weight them down to weigh 2800 lbs and come to SST ? Oh thats right we dont have any of those now..not...plenty of 150 mph chassis SST cars out there today...to me its more about the guy who runs SST today and wants to get a stocker or something...

And dont tell me about MPH differences and safety...why is it different than backet racing a 10.90 car against a 7.40 dragster...happens all day...its probably alot worse driving one of those 15 second stockers against some of the newer 9 sec stockers..

And lastly people in the stands...hmmm thinking not...if you use the stop, its over for them...regardless of you're on for 1 sec or 5...

Ok back to your regularly scheduled program..gotta go take my meds...

The LL · 12-06-2010, 05:26 PM

three classes:

8.00
9.00
10.00

run what you brung

Bryan Gillespie · 12-06-2010, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The LL

three classes:

8.00
9.00
10.00

run what you brung

winner winner chicken dinner !

12-06-2010, 03:04 PM	#1
Tom Joseph Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey I hope all of you think this out. As I get older I seem to be more thoughtfull of others and what I believe is if NHRA makes SG 8.90 and SC 7.90 they will lose part of their base. I have a SG car that will easily run 8.90 but some don't. Does NHRA think those that can't will just call up an engine builder and order a new 1000 HP motor for 15 to 25 grand just because NHRA and some people that didn't think this out said so. Nope won't happen they will go to IHRA or bracket race and the car counts will go down. NHRA is the one that stands to lose the most here so I am confused as to why they are even thinking of this. I'm emailing NHRA and say just what I have said here. Merry Christmas to all. Last edited by Tom Joseph; 12-06-2010 at 03:08 PM.

12-06-2010, 03:08 PM	#2
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey got mine, faster,faster FYI it did say do not forward and to those who do there will be red lights in 2011, LMAO

12-06-2010, 03:13 PM	#3
PAT 3340 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey scotty, do you sit at the computer all day???

12-06-2010, 03:22 PM	#4
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Super class survey Sorry kiddies,, if the classes change, Hayden and I will be done !.....................At best, (with fresh rebuild) I'm good for 8 teens................... I'll be damned if I spend 20g for and eng and convertor. And because some folks knocked the **** out of the indexes because of MPH. Thats right ! I said it ...............lol Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

12-06-2010, 04:08 PM	#5
TS310C Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Morton, IL Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey I don't know that I have really spent much time thinking about this. I guess I can see both sides. For me, if I want to go faster I just enter S/C. I ran a couple of races with the Midwest Super Comp guys last year and had a blast. I was able to do that without NHRA changing any indexes. If some of the fast super comp cars want to go faster I suppose they could run T/D. There are some races that would be hard to qualify for, but that is what a 100hp shot of nitrous is for. LOL I don't know, a big part of me says leave well enough alone. If anyone actually thinks it will put more spectators in the stands they are dreaming. Until NHRA decides to give tickets away like ADRL and Norwalk they won't get any more spectators at these races. I guess the other side is that these indexes have been the same since the inception of the class and all other classes have gotten faster. But then again, the super classes are different than the other classes. Whatever, my brain hurts! LOL __________________ Ryan Koener S/G 310C

12-06-2010, 06:32 PM	#6
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey It won't put fans in the stands. If you want that require all cars to do 5ft wheel stands. Leave well enough alone..

12-06-2010, 04:18 PM	#7
Jeremy Lehrke Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Omaha Ne Posts: 23 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey Clutch Man- 1) There is hardly anyone in the stands that watch super class cars anyway...and the people that are there are usually standing as close to the finish line as possible, as high up as they can, most of which are either friends, family, or other racers. 2) If the indexes are adjusted all that is gonna happen in a year or two is that the guys who can still afford to .90 race will have motors/cars that are capable of running way under the index. Eventually the cars are going to be sitting on the stop like they are now, maybe not quite as long as now, but on the stop none the less. In my opinion the .90 class cars should stay the same. Same tree, same index. If I wanna go faster I will, but I don't need it to be mandatory because NHRA changed the index in the class I'm running. Just my .02 Lehrke

12-06-2010, 04:41 PM	#8
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey I got both ....SST and SG...heres my take.. Screw Div and Nat events, sitting around for days on end and getting a run here or there... I'm going small association and bracket racing.. I love the Pro Tree part, just not the ridiculous entry fees and crappy payout... And the Scotty rule...in todays environment, who cares...does anyone really think that some big hitters will all of a suddden go buy ex-pro stock cars, weight them down to weigh 2800 lbs and come to SST ? Oh thats right we dont have any of those now..not...plenty of 150 mph chassis SST cars out there today...to me its more about the guy who runs SST today and wants to get a stocker or something... And dont tell me about MPH differences and safety...why is it different than backet racing a 10.90 car against a 7.40 dragster...happens all day...its probably alot worse driving one of those 15 second stockers against some of the newer 9 sec stockers.. And lastly people in the stands...hmmm thinking not...if you use the stop, its over for them...regardless of you're on for 1 sec or 5... Ok back to your regularly scheduled program..gotta go take my meds... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

12-06-2010, 05:26 PM	#9
The LL Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super class survey three classes: 8.00 9.00 10.00 run what you brung