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Old 11-20-2010, 07:14 PM   #101
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Eliminate heads ups, then it will be nothing but bracket racing. Maybe I just need to quit.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:17 PM   #102
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Hey Artie, wake up! There is only one nail left to drive and the coffin is sealed!
"No more heads-up runs in eliminations!"
I agree Billy That's why I stated "does anyone want to buy a Real Fast Neon"
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:20 PM   #103
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Is having the fastest car the most important thing?

:-) peace
Wasnt this how and why Drag Racing started in the first place?

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:22 PM   #104
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Bob,
I'm really not sure why people with the new cars don't see it my way. Good close competition is good for all of us because it makes us all that much better, including the Eliminator. I'm afraid it's being watered down now to the point that no one really even cares any longer. When no one cares any longer, do you really think there will be much in the way of factory involvement and courtesy cars? I doubt it so it is extremely important to me that a high standard is not only maintained for the actual racing but also in the tear down barn. Why NHRA is oblivious to this is beyond me.

Call me a dinosaur but that's how I feel.

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:23 PM   #105
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Maybe on the street but every since there have been different classes with different indexes

I would say it is more about driving - ask Dan and Jody and David and ....
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:25 PM   #106
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Mark all we can do is continue to yell and hope someone is enlightened.
Craig you have a foot in both cars and you can see what is needed, why are others so blind ?
There is only one way that we have a chance at being heard. It would take a complete
walkout from S/SS from a few National Events to get some attention, and we all know that would never happen, Mark as bad as this sounds I am totally convinced now that NHRA could give two s--ts about whats right or wrong and I once had a Boss that stood up at a union meeting and said if you guys dont like it there is the door and dont let it hit you in the A-s on the way out, I now fell like im at that meeting again even though I did walk through the door.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:30 PM   #107
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I would say it is more about driving - ask Dan and Jody and David and ....
Then why on earth did Dan change to E/SA? We all know he's a great driver........

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:33 PM   #108
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I agree 100% with Angelo. No heads up runs during eliminations and do away with the ahfs. It's just one big bracket race anyway. Let the people who want to thrash their stuff or build "soft" combinations do so and the people who want to bracket race do their thing. I've been stock and super stock racing since 1968 and still am. The original intent of these classes was always that they were performance driven. Those of us who still want to compete in that arena should be able to as well as those who don"t.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:39 PM   #109
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When Mike started this thread with the latest version of the AHFS he didn't provide you with the history of what has been going on for the last few months. This is the short version.

1. Several SRAC members approached NHRA about separating the new combinations by putting them in to separate classes like NHRA did with the FI cars years ago. Both written and verbal requests including surveys from racers.

We didn't get a response back NHRA. .

2, Then we were sent a proposal from NHRA doing away with the existing AHFS as we know it. The new rule was for stock and super stock to run off of a 1.10 under CIC system like Comp. So any one run by one person running quicker than 1.10 under at any National event , Divisional race or National open, all the racers running that combination across the country would be hit HP on the Tuesday following the race. The farther under 1.10 the harder everyone would be hit.

3. The SRAC voted that proposal down by a nearly unanimous vote. Any one at Vegas talking to certain tech officials were told this was going to be the new rule for 2011.

4. The SRAC then quickly came back with a nearly unanimous proposal to leave the AHFS the same as it is has been with the automatic 1.25 trigger and only for national events with the current 1.10 trigger just like it had been BUT with increased hits for combinations running quicker than 1.30 under ( similar scale as you see in the new proposal.) The only change was tiered increase in hp or indexes adjustments for combinations running quicker than 1.25 under because as you know whether you run 1.26 or 1.85 under you were only hit 3.25% and this would take forever for underrated combinations to be adjusted properly.

5. Then NHRA came back with the rule than Mike started of this post with

I hope this helps as to what has been going on over the last couple months and brings everyone up to speed..

If you want to know who your SRAC is here is the link http://sportsman.nhra.com/content/sp...9683&zoneid=85

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Old 11-20-2010, 07:43 PM   #110
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I agree 100% with Angelo. No heads up runs during eliminations and do away with the ahfs. It's just one big bracket race anyway. Let the people who want to thrash their stuff or build "soft" combinations do so and the people who want to bracket race do their thing. I've been stock and super stock racing since 1968 and still am. The original intent of these classes was always that they were performance driven. Those of us who still want to compete in that arena should be able to as well as those who don"t.
Well then you guys should save a ton of bucks and just race heavy or pro at Englishtown
way down on the traveling expenses no motels or motor homes.
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