Disclaimer?

[Billy Nees]

It's raining and I'm bored. Is there such a thing as a disclaimer that is given to a customer upon delivery of a DP or CJ? I know that T-Bolts and 68 Hemi Darts and Cudas had something affixed to the car. If there IS such a thing would anyone care to share it? Jeff Teuton?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

It's raining and I'm bored. Is there such a thing as a disclaimer that is given to a customer upon delivery of a DP or CJ? I know that T-Bolts and 68 Hemi Darts and Cudas had something affixed to the car. If there IS such a thing would anyone care to share it? Jeff Teuton?

They should state "These cars are NOT real stock Eliminator cars".....LOL. Sorry I just had to throw that in there.

[Floyd Gomez]

The only thing I have found is on the manufacturer tag it says Drag Program. I do know in the application process you must sign a form that states you agree never to title the car, never to put the car on the street and that the car is for racing purposes only.

[art leong]

I believe a lot of this non titleing/non street driving. Has to do with the federal governments C.A.F.E. standards. and safety requirements

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by art leong

I believe a lot of this non titleing/non street driving. Has to do with the federal governments C.A.F.E. standards. and safety requirements

BINGO Art....people seem to be dim on this bitching about "Ooooooooooohhh I cant go into the dealer and buy one" Bullshiite, we did EXACTLY that.

And YES when the application was filled out a discalimer and a waiver of liablity , never to drive it on the street or title it.

Its a LIABLITY issue and an safety issue SIMPLE, those things didnt EXIST when the Tbolts and Lightweights were sold.

People apparently choose to ignore this in order to facilitate their position these cars "Arent available to the general public"

Nonsense utter nonsene.........

If CAFE and Safety standards had been in place in the 60's those cars would have never happened.

They were PURPOSE built race cars , now the same thing is happening but in order to avoid the army or trial lawyers and people waiting to piss on someones parade, NOW somehow its different ?

Bike, "Works" bikes are sold and brought into this country all the time and same thing, Honda and Aprilla both have gone after people who title them for street use as "Grey Market" in some cases .... Why well in the case of Honda, some dip**** street titles a race bike, ran it out an got killed on it , the FAMILY sued Honda ! Saying the bike didnt have adequate brakes ! So Honda decided that was enough so to prove that they were NOT in agreement the bikes should be used on the street they started going after people who were doing it just to have a record of not being "condoning" the practice.

What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?

[Jack McCarthy]

"this vehicle was never produced and therefore ford (mopar) has absolutely no responibilities whatsoever towards the recipient of this vehicle. furthermore we take no responsibility express or implied for : repeated protests by fellow competitors, anti social behavior from fellow racers, and or violent attacks, physical or verbal, of racers or internet lurkers. also purchaser is hereby advised that the 1/4 mile performance will be in excess of any previous a-aa/s vehicle and driver should be prepared for excess g-forces and doors being blown off competitors vehicles"

captain jack

thanks billy that was fun !

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by drooze

BINGO Art....people seem to be dim on this bitching about "Ooooooooooohhh I cant go into the dealer and buy one" Bullshiite, we did EXACTLY that.

And YES when the application was filled out a discalimer and a waiver of liablity , never to drive it on the street or title it.

Its a LIABLITY issue and an safety issue SIMPLE, those things didnt EXIST when the Tbolts and Lightweights were sold.

People apparently choose to ignore this in order to facilitate their position these cars "Arent available to the general public"

Nonsense utter nonsene.........

If CAFE and Safety standards had been in place in the 60's those cars would have never happened.

They were PURPOSE built race cars , now the same thing is happening but in order to avoid the army or trial lawyers and people waiting to piss on someones parade, NOW somehow its different ?

Bike, "Works" bikes are sold and brought into this country all the time and same thing, Honda and Aprilla both have gone after people who title them for street use as "Grey Market" in some cases .... Why well in the case of Honda, some dip**** street titles a race bike, ran it out an got killed on it , the FAMILY sued Honda ! Saying the bike didnt have adequate brakes ! So Honda decided that was enough so to prove that they were NOT in agreement the bikes should be used on the street they started going after people who were doing it just to have a record of not being "condoning" the practice.

What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?

NO.....That engine is not avaliable in a showroom stock car even though he built the car from a "real one". Can you say NHRA CRATE MOTERED CAR ! At least IHRA seperates the crate motored cars from the other stockers into thier own class.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

"this vehicle was never produced and therefore ford (mopar) has absolutely no responibilities whatsoever towards the recipient of this vehicle. furthermore we take no responsibility express or implied for : repeated protests by fellow competitors, anti social behavior from fellow racers, and or violent attacks, physical or verbal, of racers or internet lurkers. also purchaser is hereby advised that the 1/4 mile performance will be in excess of any previous a-aa/s vehicle and driver should be prepared for excess g-forces and doors being blown off competitors vehicles"

captain jack

thanks billy that was fun !

You forgot H/S and H/SA plus a few more classes so they dont have to run each other heads up and get "ENHANCED" when enough of them get finished !

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by drooze

What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?

It was my understanding that Doug's car is in fact NOT a Drag Pack car, he couldn't get one, and had to build his own. That was the story that went around.

[Alan Roehrich]

If NHRA wanted to allow racers to get around the weight added by safety and emissions standards, they could have created an adjustment, either a set weight, or a percentage of the total weight, to be removed from the shipping weight.

And purpose built race cars were kept out of Stock, at least traditionally, for a reason. We're seeing the reason right now. It sure as Hell didn't have anything to do with federal safety or emissions mandates.