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Old 03-22-2010, 03:48 PM   #1
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Default Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?

just depends on how "stock" your "stocker" is.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: Stocker running in SuperStock.....?

In SS/IA you are @ 3355 lbs, in SS/JA you are 3525 with the 5.7. The car is a natural SS/IA car so you can run H, I, or J. 3070 lbs for SS/GA. All weights include driver @ 170 lbs
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:32 PM   #3
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Just to clarify Jeff's numbers.(you got to rember that he is a car salesman!)

Challenger with 5.7 is 305 SS hp with a 3100 shipping weight.

Its power to weight factor is 10.16, which makes its natural class as SS/IA 10.00- 10.99

IA=10 x 305 hp + 170 driver= 3220 min weight 10.70 index.
cage, license, net, trans sheild,& 3.2/5a pants and jacket required

Can also run HA @ 3065 min weight(9.5x305+170) with 10.60 index

Can also run JA @ 3525 min weight(11x305+170) with 11.00 index.
No cage,license,net,.Trans sheild is required. Must have 3.2/1a pants and jacket


You can also run SS/GT.
GT/DA is(9.5x305+170) 3065 min wt with a 10.50 index
GT/EA is (10x305+170) 3220 min wt with a 10.65 index
GT/FA is (10.5 x305+170) 3370 min wt with a 10.80 index

All of these GT classes require cage,net,sheild,license and 3.2/5A pant and jacket

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Old 03-22-2010, 08:54 PM   #4
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Just to clarify Jeff's numbers.(you got to rember that he is a car salesman!)

Challenger with 5.7 is 305 SS hp with a 3100 shipping weight.

Its power to weight factor is 10.16, which makes its natural class as SS/IA 10.00- 10.99

IA=10 x 305 hp + 170 driver= 3220 min weight 10.70 index.
cage, license, net, trans sheild,& 3.2/5a pants and jacket required

Can also run HA @ 3065 min weight(9.5x305+170) with 10.60 index

Can also run JA @ 3525 min weight(11x305+170) with 11.00 index.
No cage,license,net,.Trans sheild is required. Must have 3.2/1a pants and jacket


You can also run SS/GT.
GT/DA is(9.5x305+170) 3065 min wt with a 10.50 index
GT/EA is (10x305+170) 3220 min wt with a 10.65 index
GT/FA is (10.5 x305+170) 3370 min wt with a 10.80 index

All of these GT classes require cage,net,sheild,license and 3.2/5A pant and jacket
Check, those were the same conclusions/numbers I came to , pretty close, its nice to see it all laid out, the GT Classes......what would be the Advantage of running that aside from SS ? The FA would be the only one I would see as feasiable because of index, I dont really see the car running under 10.5 for the time being.

The cage we had certed, good to 8.50, the Pants and Jacket (hood gloves and stuff) all 3.2/5a, Net (RJS), Shield (CSR) and liscence, Super Gas, and Stock.

I think it will all depend on the testing....well go from there.

Thanks, its nice to see it all wrung out by someone else and get confirmation its right
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:46 PM   #5
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Check, those were the same conclusions/numbers I came to , pretty close, its nice to see it all laid out, the GT Classes......what would be the Advantage of running that aside from SS ? The FA would be the only one I would see as feasiable because of index, I dont really see the car running under 10.5 for the time being.
Only advantage I can see for you running GT instead of SS is that GT/FA fits your car better in regards to min. wt. 3370 is alot easier to get to rather than ss/JA at 3525.

Also you might consider # of cars in class(es). Too many would make the chance of a heads up greatly increase. I would consider a stocker to be at a disadvantage in a heads up with most purpose built SS or GT cars.
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Also you might consider # of cars in class(es). Too many would make the chance of a heads up greatly increase. I would consider a stocker to be at a disadvantage in a heads up with most purpose built SS or GT cars.
Good point and no doubt any SS Cars would probably eat my lunch, or GT Cars, best to avoid a heads up if possible.

Thanks, good advice
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:49 AM   #7
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Unless the rules have changed in 2010 (haven,'t download Rulebook), you have always been required to possess a Competition License to run SS/IA. This requires a medical exam then followed by testing in car. I did not notice in your posting that you had obtained the above license......you might want to check into that. I believe that the transmission blanket is only required when you are running 10.99 or faster no matter what record is as long as index is 11.00 or slower. Those are the reasons I always add the required weight to run SS/JA (can't fog mirror hardly --Let alone pass Med. Exam). Real Super Stock guys could probably elaborate on this further
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just depends on how "stock" your "stocker" is.
Bone Stock 2009 Challenger DP As stock as any. All Approved stuffs and Well its a stock Drag Pak,

Im "on the fence" about running it I or J, 3355 is about where its at with me in it and leaving the Accumulator in, as well as putting a few "Oem" I can make 35xx legally with weight and the replacment of some OE items that I found lighter conterparts for and were legal to replace, I just dont know if I feel like doing that work.

Im thinking ill take the parts along for the ride and depending entirley on how it runs out in testing Ill make a decision.

Jeff can you run KA ? No record there
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