Just a thought....

[Rich Biebel]

Chirs and Dave.....



Go to work, Fix the car .....get it working somewhat as well as others have. Show up at a race and lay down some good runs, maybe win some rounds and then you will EARN the respect of all those that came before you.....

So far to me all you have done is look foolish......very foolish......

[NewHemi]

Respect is only worth receiving from those who are worthy of giving it.

For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not understand, no explanation will suffice.

So loosen up and enjoy yourself.. We are already having fun, so go ahead and continue to amuse yourself by telling others how foolish they look..

In the meantime, we are already hard at work and regardless of the short term outcome, we are still working hard, having fun, and moving forward.

David
The New hemi Guy
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[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

So far to me all you have done is look foolish......very foolish......

Hmm, well put Pop, but what I would add is whose perception am I supposed to be concerned about ?

"Everybody" , or just Rich, and others, According to him ..

Perhaps , perhaps we should put a list of people we....nah.....

I think Rich is one of the people who just "Dont get it" thats ok, not everyone is capable.

Heres how it is Rich, I really dont care what you or anyone else that holds that opinion percieves to believe, I cannot make everyone happy so a long long long time ago I quit caring about appearances, living for what others think of you has to be a miserable, lonley and disappointing venture at best.

No expectation for "everyone" or you would be enough.....

Wow, are you one of those people who like me mows their grass because they enjoy mowing grass, or are you like my neighbor who mows his after I mow mine so as he dosent look worse ?

Living for other people opinions is not a very sustainable pursuit.

In as much as your "advice" I havent seen any honest directed advice without jabs....not once...so is all your "advice" laced with secondary motives ? Or are you capable of giving advice without being a dick about it ?

[Rich Biebel]

You guys are just in a class by yourselves......

I should know better than to post here but, I am stupid........Good Luck....

[JRyan]

I'm no longer an NHRA member, so I don't have access to the 2010 rulebook, but it used to say, ....as to performance equipment, it is the general rule that unless optional performance equipment or performance-related modification is specifically permitted by this Rulebook, it is prohibited.

So unless you want to write to them and get express approval, which I doubt would happen, you'd just as well forget it.

Oh! It goes on to say that just because it may have passed through tech a number of times doesn't mean it's approved.

Good luck!

Jerry

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

I'm no longer an NHRA member, so I don't have access to the 2010 rulebook, but it used to say, ....as to performance equipment, it is the general rule that unless optional performance equipment or performance-related modification is specifically permitted by this Rulebook, it is prohibited.

THANK YOU ! That was EXACTLY what I was looking for a rule that SPECIFICALLY disallowed it, I will look to see if that , or a variant of it is still in there.

So unless you want to write to them and get express approval, which I doubt would happen, you'd just as well forget it.

If thats the case then it answers the side effect legality question, the real purpose wasnt for a "NHRA Legal" drag engine, it would have just been a nifty "side effect" Im still going to try it, like someone else said, if it fails it will fail in spectacular fashion

But thats a good point, I wouldnt even try if its disallowed by something similar to the rule you mentioned

Oh! It goes on to say that just because it may have passed through tech a number of times doesn't mean it's approved.

Been there, good advice.....something Ive seen before.

Thanks so very much, THATS what Ive been looking for this whole flippin thread that grew a life of its own having nothing to do with the original posts. Thanks.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

New Hemi, you are incorrect on your point that "if the rule book doesn't say you can't, then you can" that line of thinking will cause you some trouble I gaurantee that. Drooze, you feel as though people are attacking you....well you're setting yourself up for it with nearly every post. I've never met you or your dad, I'm sure you're both very nice people,however you can't start posting "hey we're gonna set the world on fire" stuff then have problems and not expect some undesireable feed back. Having someone blow the horn for you is more desireable than blowing it yourself. However I wish you the best of luck, hope you get your issues sorted out, it seems as though the effort is certainly there. Joe

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

New Hemi, you are incorrect on your point that "if the rule book doesn't say you can't, then you can" that line of thinking will cause you some trouble I gaurantee that. Drooze, you feel as though people are attacking you....well you're setting yourself up for it with nearly every post. I've never met you or your dad, I'm sure you're both very nice people,however you can't start posting "hey we're gonna set the world on fire" stuff then have problems and not expect some undesireable feed back. Having someone blow the horn for you is more desireable than blowing it yourself. However I wish you the best of luck, hope you get your issues sorted out, it seems as though the effort is certainly there. Joe

Not to change the subject a bit, but I was curious:

Out of interest, how did the pacifica run in round 1 of eliminations? I looked but didn't see the result.

Eric

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield

Not to change the subject a bit, but I was curious:

Out of interest, how did the pacifica run in round 1 of eliminations? I looked but didn't see the result.

Eric

It was a BEAST I couldnt get traction it just spun and spun (really but it does that on a dry road, FWD and ****ty all season tires)

So I set the Cruise to 55 and changed CD's and tracks to Neil Diamond "Crackin Rosie" (the old mans CD)

I was wholly expecting to get a "Delay of Game penalty"

25 and some change

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

Drooze, you feel as though people are attacking you....well you're setting yourself up for it with nearly every post.

I dont mind or really even feel people are attacking, I asked a question, simple, I didnt get an answer that was valid and on topic , that was what I found annoying, it took about a month and a lot of interm garbage, to get the answer someone finally provided, nothing more.

This is
a)the Internet
b)ENTERTAINMENT !

Racing is 2 things, in my opinion ALL types, all classes, all vehicles, its a competitive sport for one, two its ENTERTAINMENT, for the specators, for the observers for the participants, if it werent fun would you do it ?

I think some of the more "serious" types who are incapable at poking fun at themselves and in general well, they have and take issue with that opinion, they have their own and they are entitled to it. I have mine

At the track when I was a kid (and i was there A LOT) People with the Charachter and ENTERTAINMENT Value, like Jungle Jim, Muldowney, when racing was understood as a partial entertainment venture and a large part was handled by promoters, or driver/promoters, nothing more

You perhaps take me to serious , I dont take myself half as serious I assure you.

I can reap what I sow, and if I couldnt I would have stopped a Loooonnnngggg time ago, BUT I also do NOT attack people on a personal level no matter what they say by calling them names, making suggestions ad to charachter, etc, read my posts and find one nasty directed post that wasnt opened by another by a personal attack first. Ill save you time you cant, and you wont.

You wont even see any light hearted ribbing or comments about you this, or you that, because I dont know people here for the most part to make that leap and to go somewhere I see as something reserved for people I know well and in person. But others have no issue taking that liberty, thats on them not me.

Thats all....

Its enterainment and information and its RACING !