Class win

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

How about this,
In SS, SS/ Mod cars to comp, cars and trucks run same class, SS and GT run same class,GTs have wt penalty, GT fwds have extra penalty. All Natl. Events run class, Class Winner is automatically in, 96 car field of Class Winners and fastest non winners.
In Stock, All Natl. Events run class, same as above.
At every race, minimum of 12 cars per eliminator to be torn down (rain or not) numbers are drawn out of a hat. DQ is minimum 1year off and offending parts are voluntarily surrendered, marked and destroyed.
That ought to piss some people off.
(Terry should like this one)

Billy- I'd like to add to your list. One pound breaks to a certain class letter, then 3/4 lb breaks. With exeption to Indy and sometimes Vegas, qualify 128. The rest of the races qualifies 64, unless of course they quota less than 64, then you qualify 32.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Herbie Null

Ed, paint your car yellow and try to get cab fair. just forget aboutit...Ed you can Quote that

First you don't answer a simple question.Then you make a comment that defies logic.Then
you spell a word wrong.I think you better leave Internet racing to those capable of handling it.Some of us can actually do both,sort of like chewing bubblegum and walking at the same time.And you can quote me on that.

[Rich Biebel]

I agree with herbie Null 100%

NHRA should make some more new rules...

If you don't actually race anyone at a race where class is contested you don't get anything but maybe a decal...

You MUST race someone and win to be eligible for a Trophy and any contingencies.

You also must teardown and pass to collect your trophy and contingency

Sound familiar? Yea because that is how it used to be and was meant to be.

All the whinning that goes on here by just a few people is sickening.

The bottom feeders do the most bitching and whinning.

There is no way the old days and ways are going to return so NHRA should wise up and dump the "make believe class eliminations" at various events.

Put the time and money into places that will do the sport some good and make a better show. Heads up runs are fine but not if the cars are as slow as dumptrucks......No one wants to see this crap out on the racetrack......Some bitch about T-Stop cars ...Some bitch about T/S and T/D and just about any other class that they don;t run....What a bunch of whinning old farts..........


Maybe some of you should retire to the old folks home and sit and tell your stories about the Glory days........ Bunch of F.O.G.s........

And don't tell me to STFU .....I've paid my dues since 1966 and trailered plenty of cars to the races.....including Stockers....

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I agree with herbie Null 100%

NHRA should make some more new rules...

If you don't actually race anyone at a race where class is contested you don't get anything but maybe a decal...

You MUST race someone and win to be eligible for a Trophy and any contingencies.

You also must teardown and pass to collect your trophy and contingency

Sound familiar? Yea because that is how it used to be and was meant to be.

All the whinning that goes on here by just a few people is sickening.

The bottom feeders do the most bitching and whinning.

There is no way the old days and ways are going to return so NHRA should wise up and dump the "make believe class eliminations" at various events.

Put the time and money into places that will do the sport some good and make a better show. Heads up runs are fine but not if the cars are as slow as dumptrucks......No one wants to see this crap out on the racetrack......Some bitch about T-Stop cars ...Some bitch about T/S and T/D and just about any other class that they don;t run....What a bunch of whinning old farts..........


Maybe some of you should retire to the old folks home and sit and tell your stories about the Glory days........ Bunch of F.O.G.s........

And don't tell me to STFU .....I've paid my dues since 1966 and trailered plenty of cars to the races.....including Stockers....

Rich,so if I pay NHRA $280 and I'm the only T car I get no wally,no contingency $$ and if I'm not among the quick 128/64/32 then I put the car back in the box and go home.
Now that's a real solid business strategy.
I guess we'll be seeing the dawn of T/S-/D at all national events if this comes to pass.
S/SS will become a rich mans sport like yachting and polo.

[Rich Biebel]

No Ed...I didn't say anything like what you responded.........I simply said awarding people money and a trophy for making a by run makes NO sense. I didn't say a word about what car gets to run eliminations.

The Old days was always class winners and low qualifiers.....and the field was nowhere near the number of cars as today. I don't know what would make a good formula fro seeding cars into eliminations. The present system is why so many show up. ALL run or all run up to 128 cars at most events....


Having so many classes has diluted the categorie and the bye runs for class awards is rediculous.....Bitching that you paid $280 to race an event is not relavent to this....It already is a rich mans sport or didn't you notice! Thats why I'm not there......The return on investment has become ludicrously poor.....and it was never great to begin with!

I entered a number of national events in my old days in Jr. Stock and Stock and Super Stock......I never got a single chance to run a National event eliminator for various reasons in those old days........I paid my money, took my chances and realized I was usually not fast enough and in over my head and went home.....I moved into categories I could win at........and did.....