Class win

[Ed Fernandez]

IF the .5-under rule remains it will mean to win class on a single in SS/GS in 2010 you will have to run 0.95-under the 2009 index.

I believe you'll have to go .80 under present index's to get the class win and extras.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

IF the .5-under rule remains it will mean to win class on a single in SS/GS in 2010 you will have to run 0.95-under the 2009 index.

I believe you'll have to go .80 under present index's to get the class win and extras.

You are right Ed but why penalize the guys that don't have someone in their class?
If the rules says .5 under the index it should be for everybody not just the singles

[Herbie Null]

Sometimes it is easier to point the finger at others than ourself. We always refer to the old days, in the old days there was just super stock. No GT, modified, trucks and so on. Now with all the single runs, class is a joke. I have seen cars come to a class race and move to a different class just because no one was there in a particular class and they could make a bye run. I have even done this myself, it did not feel real good holding my little WALLY. That is why everyone watches classes with the most car counts, GT/AA-SS/AH-SS/JA there are many more you get my meaning. Instead of adding or removing weight to run from other class cars, now we can do the opposite. We can all move to a class where we have to run heads up for the WALLY, maybe they should not give out class wins for a single bye run period. That would bring back the old days in a hurry, take your licking go home and work on your stuff. Now for the blind fold, ready aim FIRE!!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Herbie Null

Sometimes it is easier to point the finger at others than ourself. We always refer to the old days, in the old days there was just super stock. No GT, modified, trucks and so on. Now with all the single runs, class is a joke. I have seen cars come to a class race and move to a different class just because no one was there in a particular class and they could make a bye run. I have even done this myself, it did not feel real good holding my little WALLY. That is why everyone watches classes with the most car counts, GT/AA-SS/AH-SS/JA there are many more you get my meaning. Instead of adding or removing weight to run from other class cars, now we can do the opposite. We can all move to a class were we have to run heads up for the WALLY, maybe they should not give out class wins for a single bye run period. That would bring back the old days in a hurry, take your licking go home and work on your stuff. Now for the blind fold, ready aim FIRE!!!

Your right......It would also make class runs more exciting and interesting to the average spectator. I always thought one should win class to be able to run the eliminator like when I raced SS/IA. Its just bracket racing today. I will take mine without the blindfold.....LOL.

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Herbie Null

maybe they should not give out class wins for a single bye run period. That would bring back the old days in a hurry, take your licking go home and work on your stuff. Now for the blind fold, ready aim FIRE!!!

But that would really screw the guys who really are the only car in their class. My buddy with the V/SA car is normally the only one on the grounds, and he can still run .6 under at least with the index change and add HP he got last year. I think the only time he has run anyone is when Lane Weber is there, maybe at Denver?

Maybe just make cars stick to the class they pre-registered in, no changing class at the track.

[bubski]

Combine stick and autos dont screw the few REAL MEN that choose to not wear a dress and shift for themselves the stick classes are not heavily populated because its harder and takes more time to get it right so why screw the stick guy cause he has a bye. combine classes very few bye runs

[Michael Beard]

I agree. The FWD cars have sticks and autos combined, plus a big jump in weight breaks between classes. I don't see why a number of classes couldn't go to full pound weight breaks. That would reduce some of the class hopping, create a better show w/ more cars per class, and reduce the number of Class winners that they have to pay and give trophies to. It would also help in factoring cars -- If two classes have the same Index, why shouldn't they run heads up? -- mis-factored combos would make themselves more apparent.

So, instead of penalizing racers for singles, create more heads-up racing. This would effect not only Class, but also the Eliminator.

[Herbie Null]

Michael Beard, you just hit the nail on the head!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

I agree. The FWD cars have sticks and autos combined, plus a big jump in weight breaks between classes. I don't see why a number of classes couldn't go to full pound weight breaks. That would reduce some of the class hopping, create a better show w/ more cars per class, and reduce the number of Class winners that they have to pay and give trophies to. It would also help in factoring cars -- If two classes have the same Index, why shouldn't they run heads up? -- mis-factored combos would make themselves more apparent.

So, instead of penalizing racers for singles, create more heads-up racing. This would effect not only Class, but also the Eliminator.

Damn....I said this and you guys jumped down my throat. By the way.....the crate motored classes are combined stick and automatic. The "Pure Stock" classes are 1 pound breaks in IHRA 8 thru 16 pounds per. Ive never seen a stick shift crate motored car run before I retired.

[Michael Beard]

Thanks Herbie... I sometimes wonder if I'm on everyone's ignore list. Why does it take a bracket racer to advocate more heads up racing while many "class racers" run the other way?

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Damn....I said this and you guys jumped down my throat. By the way.....the crate motored classes are combined stick and automatic. The "Pure Stock" classes are 1 pound breaks in IHRA 8 thru 16 pounds per. Ive never seen a stick shift crate motored car run before I retired.

I was going to mention that, but you know how some people just tune out as soon as you mention IHRA. :-/ I believe Lindell Hilling ran a stick in his black '55 Chevy crate motor car for a short time when he first brought it out.

You're always going to have dissenting views. You need to do the best of your ability with the knowledge you have, while keeping an open mind.