Schubek Lifters

Bob Gullett · 11-19-2009, 07:48 PM

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Sean Marconette · 11-19-2009, 09:31 PM

Daryl Wikle is a rep for Smith. He provided mine two months ago. His number is 316-942-9500

Sean

GTX JOHN · 11-20-2009, 12:56 AM

Smith Machine out of Cedar City, Utah now is the builder of these lifters. My understanding is he is the old shop foreman when they were in vegas. Better buy a bunch because the quality control is even worse than before......First set two broken plungers and one bottom that came loose in first set I bought in first five runs!!!

Jeff Lee · 11-20-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

Smith Machine out of Cedar City, Utah now is the builder of these lifters. My understanding is he is the old shop foreman when they were in vegas. Better buy a bunch because the quality control is even worse than before......First set two broken plungers and one bottom that came loose in first set I bought in first five runs!!!

Your lucky you found the problem before it got real serious. I can attest to the damages when one of the pucks do come off.

Casey Miles · 11-20-2009, 11:50 AM

Two engines, never put them in my car again! Use the steel billet or the ones with EDM and ramp up the spring pressure.
Casey Miles
248H

Glenn Briglio · 11-20-2009, 01:33 PM

So have you had problems with the Schubeck or the Smith lifters?

Casey Miles · 11-20-2009, 03:38 PM

I had Schubeck and I'm not say that they aren't a good product,but I still wouldn't take a chance on anything like them any longer. If you even chip one, get ready to take the motor out , buy new pistons and also reboring the block. Never mind all the other small parts you have to replace. (oil pump, camshaft, bearings, and on and on.)
Casey Miles
248H

X-TECH MAN · 11-20-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

I had Schubeck and I'm not say that they aren't a good product,but I still wouldn't take a chance on anything like them any longer. If you even chip one, get ready to take the motor out , buy new pistons and also reboring the block. Never mind all the other small parts you have to replace. (oil pump, camshaft, bearings, and on and on.)
Casey Miles
248H

I know its beating a dead horse but if the valve spring rule had never been changed to any pressure the lifter problem and cost would not be there. NHRA should have just gone ot a standard pressure across the board for all models and brands of engines that would allow equal performance for everyone without the expense of using something like a Shubeck type lifter...... something around 150 lbs on the seat and 350 lbs open and these hi RPM shift points would go away (more savings) . Oh well then they would have to check valve spring pressures at tear down again. To much work I guess.

Mark Yacavone · 11-20-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I know its beating a dead horse but if the valve spring rule had never been changed to any pressure the lifter problem and cost would not be there. NHRA should have just gone ot a standard pressure across the board for all models and brands of engines that would allow equal performance for everyone without the expense of using something like a Shubeck type lifter...... something around 150 lbs on the seat and 350 lbs open and these hi RPM shift points would go away (more savings) . Oh well then they would have to check valve spring pressures at tear down again. To much work I guess.

Yep ,Terry. Then you wouldn't need weldments added to the pushrod cup on OEM type rockers, only on certain brands.

X-TECH MAN · 11-20-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Yep ,Terry. Then you wouldn't need weldments added to the pushrod cup on OEM type rockers, only on certain brands.

So what we have is another Super Stock class with a tire size limit and spec cam lift. The heads are "almost" the same....lol.

11-19-2009, 07:48 PM	#1
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11-19-2009, 09:31 PM	#2
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 790 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Schubek Lifters Daryl Wikle is a rep for Smith. He provided mine two months ago. His number is 316-942-9500 Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

11-20-2009, 12:56 AM	#3
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,726 Likes: 2,775 Liked 2,452 Times in 692 Posts	Re: Schubek Lifters Smith Machine out of Cedar City, Utah now is the builder of these lifters. My understanding is he is the old shop foreman when they were in vegas. Better buy a bunch because the quality control is even worse than before......First set two broken plungers and one bottom that came loose in first set I bought in first five runs!!!

11-20-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 125 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Schubek Lifters Two engines, never put them in my car again! Use the steel billet or the ones with EDM and ramp up the spring pressure. Casey Miles 248H

11-20-2009, 01:33 PM	#6
Glenn Briglio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massapequa Park,NY Posts: 1,281 Likes: 1,889 Liked 967 Times in 307 Posts	Re: Schubek Lifters So have you had problems with the Schubeck or the Smith lifters? __________________ 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z I/SA B&B Auto Machine Shop.

11-20-2009, 03:38 PM	#7
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 125 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Schubek Lifters I had Schubeck and I'm not say that they aren't a good product,but I still wouldn't take a chance on anything like them any longer. If you even chip one, get ready to take the motor out , buy new pistons and also reboring the block. Never mind all the other small parts you have to replace. (oil pump, camshaft, bearings, and on and on.) Casey Miles 248H