Lencos in SS

[SSDA3426]

Well As Tony Knows(And Many Others Here That Class Race)There's NEVER Any Certainty To ANYTHING In Racing...How Many Times Have You All Traveled To And From An Event Without SOMETHING Unplanned Happening?!If You Can Count On Your Hands You Musta Not Been Racin Long OR DAMN Lucky!!...I Have Traveled To Tracks And They Nit Pick Your Equipment To Death(Little things)and the Next Guy With A HUGE Name rolls in and they Wave At Them..Shake Their Hand And Pass Them Without Them Ever Bringing Their Vehicle into Tech......I've Seen It Happen WAY TOO Many Times....Even When Records Are Set There Are Short Cuts For These Same People When My Car Is Scattered For Twelve States To Verify....This Is A Game..We Will Continue To Play And Pay...We'll Bitch,Well Kick,Well Scratch But We Wont Bite And Well Play By What Rules They Make Up For Us Because We Want To Play...NOTHING Will Ever Change..It Hasnt In 50+ Years and Aint Now because Some Of Us Are Bitchin About It...I Found This Out YEARS ago....
I Dont Even Have The Dough To Be Competitive Right Now...BUT Assure You..As Soon As I Do I Will Be Back And Am Seriously Thinking About SHAKING HANDS Again In My Car.
We Used to Go To National Events with at least 4 trannys...2 Autos,2 Manuals...Change It All And Race At The Track with the Lighter(Less Entries)Class..Hell Me And Phil Rohr Changed Up Between the Two Of Us YEARS Ago in My Car in Cajun Nationals...1 in Manual 1 in Auto...Those Were The Days...Those Were The Days......Sad Theyre Gone And The Modern Pencil Pushing None Race Driver Concerned Track Managers and Rule Developers Are Here Now...My Cousin "Bullet Bob" Just Bit The Wall in his NEW Car at Charlotte This Weekend Because Of LACK of CONCERN on the Tracks Behalf.....


Oh Well...Like Was said Before..These Are Just Our Rants And May Be Heard But Will Not Be Cared About by the Officials.....



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[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop.

I am sure this will become all too obvious. As in most investigations, follow the money and sometimes the family tree too.

[herbjr]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop.

I run an automatic so I'm talking about myself here. But giving a weight break for an automatic is a 30 year old rule. Make them weigh the same or maybe 100 lbs. not 250 or 5%.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

I am sure this will become all too obvious. As in most investigations, follow the money and sometimes the family tree too.

I guess you did not read my prior post. Can we say Gracia as in Danny and his "Family Tree" SS/AH project unless my under cover "spies" have it all wrong. I guess he cant drive a "real" 4 speed running in the 8's and needs all the help he can get.....LOL.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Great minds think alike! I was thinking the same thing and have been told that he can't !! Funny how the word gets around! As I remember when GM supplied him a Pro Stock Truck he had a hard time with it!

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I guess you did not read my prior post. Can we say Gracia as in Danny and his "Family Tree" SS/AH project unless my under cover "spies" have it all wrong. I guess he cant drive a "real" 4 speed running in the 8's and needs all the help he can get.....LOL.

[Tony DePillo]

Maybe he should put a automatic and a mechanical delay box in it like everyone else.
Hell the Auto's have the record even with the added weight.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Originally Posted by Tony DePillo

Maybe he should put a automatic and a mechanical delay box in it like everyone else.
Hell the Auto's have the record even with the added weight.

Tony, I raised hell for years about all the Loooong buttons might as well be talking to the wall. I was told once by the IHRA nat. tech director that the guys had to have them or they'd red light, nearly floored me with that answer. I've come to realize "when in Rome". Joe

[Cam]

Originally Posted by Dinsdale

Okay, easier on what parts? I would think the driveline shock would be worse due to less clutch slippage. Maybe the clutch will last a bit longer but with the right setup for your combo and adjusted properly they don't wear out that quickly. Routine maintenace is required on any race car and more so as the power goes up. My Jerico manual says clutch slippage on gear changes is mandatory to prevent trans damage. I know guys with 400+ runs on a Jerico and wonder if a clutchless trans would last that long. Not arguing with you here, just trying to learn something.

I've wondered about the "slip when you shift" mandate. If you zoom into the timeline, the shift is made and the shock load goes through the driveline. The additional load of the higher gear then pulls the engine down, reducing certrifugal clamping force on the clutch and it slips.
By the time the clutch slips any damage has already been done. Just a thought.
Cam

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I guess you did not read my prior post. Can we say Gracia as in Danny and his "Family Tree" SS/AH project unless my under cover "spies" have it all wrong. I guess he cant drive a "real" 4 speed running in the 8's and needs all the help he can get.....LOL.

Sorry Terry, I didn't scroll back.Just to be clear, are you telling me that Danny Gracia would use his positon of authority to further the racing program for his son? Does his son own the car or is there a Big $$ team involved? I thnk the N in NHRA would have to mean Nepotism if that was the case. That has to be an unfounded rumour. I can't believe that a person in that position would get anywhere near that! In Illinois, we only allow our Governor to do that type of thing...for awhile anyway.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

Sorry Terry, I didn't scroll back.Just to be clear, are you telling me that Danny Gracia would use his positon of authority to further the racing program for his son? Does his son own the car or is there a Big $$ team involved? I thnk the N in NHRA would have to mean Nepotism if that was the case. That has to be an unfounded rumour. I can't believe that a person in that position would get anywhere near that! In Illinois, we only allow our Governor to do that type of thing...for awhile anyway.

Who knows.....It may be all just rumor??????? I have come to believe nothing I read, very little of what I hear, and almost nothing I see. Just passing on what I heard and giving the stick racers on here food for thought for those who wanted to find out who lit this fuse on the s##t bomb.

X STOCKER........Nepotism means helping a relative, next of kin, relation, in finding and aquiring a job, help with the job, or just making it easier for them to acheve an objective by giving out special favors.