2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ

herbjr · 06-02-2009, 07:22 AM

How much are they new if you get one to race?

Jim Ronzello · 06-02-2009, 07:36 AM

Good question for Jesse Kershaw.

Casey Miles · 06-02-2009, 07:55 AM

Ford made a huge mistake selling them from the showroom. This was so that the dealer could first screw someone who wants to buy one by putting on their ad dement sticker of street value. Next is the person willing to pay that amount so that they can add their amount speculating knowing that there is only 100 of the Cobra's being built. The ad on ebay is showing how bad it is. I hope the seller has to sit on his investment and looses what ever profits he thought he would get from this vehicle and then some. Mopar at least did it the right way with getting people with resume's in racing before selling them. I hope that they doget out into the racing network in full force.
Casey Miles
248H

Superfan1 · 06-02-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbjr

How much are they new if you get one to race?

From what I understand, they were about $70,000 from the dealer to the customer.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct.

Evan Smith · 06-02-2009, 01:59 PM

Casey,

I too wish more of the factory CJ cars were raced, but on the the other hand it is a free country and Ford can't hand-hold its customers. I really don't mean to seem rude or to stir up the pot with you personally, but these negative, inaccurate posts just eat me up. First, there were only 50 CJs built, not 100. Second, why do you assume every dealer is out to screw someone? I know many who got their CJs at sticker. Seriously, dude, do you plan to buy one? Why the grave concern for how Ford does business? How, in any way, does it affect you and your racing program? Ford happens to sell cars at dealerships, and this one, albeit a rare one, was sold just as other Mustangs were. If you got in line quick enough you had the chance to be a CJ owner. And there have been plenty to hit the track so far.

For the record, in 1995 Ford did require a NHRA or similar road racing license to purchase a 1995 Cobra R (there were 250 built). Unfortunately, even this did not guarantee that all the cars made it to a track as many went into the hands of collectors. While unique, these cars are not worth much more, if any, than the original purchase price. Ford did not want to go through this trouble again (which actually amounts to mounds of paperwork and more dollars wasted on crap) since it didn't mean anything in the end anyway.

David Lindsay runs a '95 Cobra R in D2 (not sure if it is a real car) and that is the only one I've seen in NHRA. A bunch were raced and wrecked in SCCA or similar competition.

Evan

Tim Kish · 06-02-2009, 08:37 PM

Anyone going to the Chicago race this weekend need to make sure they stop by for the Town Hall meeting (see the sticky post). An excellent opportunity to talk to the Ford Racing staff and get facts (not internet speculation) on these cars and other Ford programs, etc.

Craig Couris · 06-02-2009, 09:16 PM

I paid sticker for mine at Varsity Ford and it was one of the smoothest transactions I have ever made in my life.

Jim Foley · 06-02-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith

Casey,

I too wish more of the factory CJ cars were raced, but on the the other hand it is a free country and Ford can't hand-hold its customers. I really don't mean to seem rude or to stir up the pot with you personally, but these negative, inaccurate posts just eat me up. First, there were only 50 CJs built, not 100. Second, why do you assume every dealer is out to screw someone? I know many who got their CJs at sticker. Seriously, dude, do you plan to buy one? Why the grave concern for how Ford does business? How, in any way, does it affect you and your racing program? Ford happens to sell cars at dealerships, and this one, albeit a rare one, was sold just as other Mustangs were. If you got in line quick enough you had the chance to be a CJ owner. And there have been plenty to hit the track so far.

For the record, in 1995 Ford did require a NHRA or similar road racing license to purchase a 1995 Cobra R (there were 250 built). Unfortunately, even this did not guarantee that all the cars made it to a track as many went into the hands of collectors. While unique, these cars are not worth much more, if any, than the original purchase price. Ford did not want to go through this trouble again (which actually amounts to mounds of paperwork and more dollars wasted on crap) since it didn't mean anything in the end anyway.

David Lindsay runs a '95 Cobra R in D2 (not sure if it is a real car) and that is the only one I've seen in NHRA. A bunch were raced and wrecked in SCCA or similar competition.

Evan

Well said.

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 06-02-2009, 11:26 PM

I stopped by the Ford dealer I worked for today, TEAM FORD in Las Vegas. And yes they HAVE built l00 units. 50 last year and 50 this year. There are 30 still available as of this morning at 65K a pop.
This is according to my friend Chris, who is General Sales Manager. I still race after starting 49 years ago with and old 427 64 Thunderbolt! Bob

Smitty · 06-03-2009, 06:42 AM

No one is going to pay $100k for that car when/if they are still available. Even if they aren't I don't see that car bringing that kind of money so soon after production. My gut feeling is he will sit on that egg for a while before it matures any.

Evan, why didn't you come out to our first Southern Stock/Super Stock Association race Memorial Day weekend? You missed a good race, there was actually some Fords in the field, even a GT 500 running in pure stock. Where are you located in Tampa, would love to meet you in person.

Smitty

06-02-2009, 07:22 AM	#1
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ How much are they new if you get one to race?

06-02-2009, 07:55 AM	#3
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ Ford made a huge mistake selling them from the showroom. This was so that the dealer could first screw someone who wants to buy one by putting on their ad dement sticker of street value. Next is the person willing to pay that amount so that they can add their amount speculating knowing that there is only 100 of the Cobra's being built. The ad on ebay is showing how bad it is. I hope the seller has to sit on his investment and looses what ever profits he thought he would get from this vehicle and then some. Mopar at least did it the right way with getting people with resume's in racing before selling them. I hope that they doget out into the racing network in full force. Casey Miles 248H

06-02-2009, 01:59 PM	#5
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ Casey, I too wish more of the factory CJ cars were raced, but on the the other hand it is a free country and Ford can't hand-hold its customers. I really don't mean to seem rude or to stir up the pot with you personally, but these negative, inaccurate posts just eat me up. First, there were only 50 CJs built, not 100. Second, why do you assume every dealer is out to screw someone? I know many who got their CJs at sticker. Seriously, dude, do you plan to buy one? Why the grave concern for how Ford does business? How, in any way, does it affect you and your racing program? Ford happens to sell cars at dealerships, and this one, albeit a rare one, was sold just as other Mustangs were. If you got in line quick enough you had the chance to be a CJ owner. And there have been plenty to hit the track so far. For the record, in 1995 Ford did require a NHRA or similar road racing license to purchase a 1995 Cobra R (there were 250 built). Unfortunately, even this did not guarantee that all the cars made it to a track as many went into the hands of collectors. While unique, these cars are not worth much more, if any, than the original purchase price. Ford did not want to go through this trouble again (which actually amounts to mounds of paperwork and more dollars wasted on crap) since it didn't mean anything in the end anyway. David Lindsay runs a '95 Cobra R in D2 (not sure if it is a real car) and that is the only one I've seen in NHRA. A bunch were raced and wrecked in SCCA or similar competition. Evan __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK

06-02-2009, 08:37 PM	#6
Tim Kish Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 281 Likes: 2 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ Anyone going to the Chicago race this weekend need to make sure they stop by for the Town Hall meeting (see the sticky post). An excellent opportunity to talk to the Ford Racing staff and get facts (not internet speculation) on these cars and other Ford programs, etc. __________________ Tim Kish 3032 SS/GS

06-02-2009, 09:16 PM	#7
Craig Couris Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 122 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ I paid sticker for mine at Varsity Ford and it was one of the smoothest transactions I have ever made in my life.

06-02-2009, 07:36 AM	#2
Jim Ronzello Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rockwood, Michigan Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ Good question for Jesse Kershaw.

06-02-2009, 11:26 PM	#9
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ I stopped by the Ford dealer I worked for today, TEAM FORD in Las Vegas. And yes they HAVE built l00 units. 50 last year and 50 this year. There are 30 still available as of this morning at 65K a pop. This is according to my friend Chris, who is General Sales Manager. I still race after starting 49 years ago with and old 427 64 Thunderbolt! Bob

06-03-2009, 06:42 AM	#10
Smitty Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gibsonton, FL Posts: 267 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2008 Ford Cobra Jet Factory Race Car #27 FR500CJ No one is going to pay $100k for that car when/if they are still available. Even if they aren't I don't see that car bringing that kind of money so soon after production. My gut feeling is he will sit on that egg for a while before it matures any. Evan, why didn't you come out to our first Southern Stock/Super Stock Association race Memorial Day weekend? You missed a good race, there was actually some Fords in the field, even a GT 500 running in pure stock. Where are you located in Tampa, would love to meet you in person. Smitty