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Old 08-26-2012, 07:02 AM   #1
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Default Re: Bring back super/mod...

I would like to hear what Mike Keener
thought about this thread.

He was one of the best when it came
to modified racing.


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Old 08-15-2012, 07:52 AM   #2
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I agree with the idea. Make it cheap by making it very limited. Cubic inch and wts. One carb size, No sheet metal manifolds, No Box, Stick or Auto doesnt matter . Stock Crank sizes. Flat top Pistons. Trophy Only prize except contingency. List the bodies legal, Duster, Nova, Camaro. Cage, 4 link, 9 inch rear or 12 bolt or Dana.
It will never happen Dick. Someone would have to actually tear these cars down to verify the winner is legal. That means paying someone who knows what they are looking at.

Come on Mike...no FWD-conversion "jelly bean" cars. The sanction body wants new cars, not antiques.

While the idea is great, it will never happen, but it is fun to dream.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:29 AM   #3
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It may be a dream but a definite "nitch" in class racing not being used to get new racers.
Jim Boburka and I had proposed similar Spec car 4or 5 years ago to combat costs and "factoring" issues. Name the motor in ANY legal SS or S chassis. That would cut costs for current racers. They could move to this class with next cheaper engine build and not have to replace their car. Younger could purchase retiring cars. I bet if NHRA had a big money company approach with a "sealed motor" to help in that area it would work.
Admit it the aged racer population is dwindling and entry level is not Stk or SS. It could all become .90 brackets and that would be sad end of heads up racing in my humble opinion.

Consider this fact, I think true Heads up racers would even accept a ONE brand motor class if it cut the cost to 1/3 and made it entry level. This would be about survival of Heads up and racers in general. Chrysler is fine with its AH program if you can afford them. Many other racing organizations have gone to more generic car and compete on DRIVER skills, Tuning skills. ETC. Its time to rethink fun,, driving and tuning with less $ in the equation.

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Old 08-15-2012, 08:59 AM   #4
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It will never happen Dick. Someone would have to actually tear these cars down to verify the winner is legal. That means paying someone who knows what they are looking at.

Come on Mike...no FWD-conversion "jelly bean" cars. The sanction body wants new cars, not antiques.

While the idea is great, it will never happen, but it is fun to dream.
P&G for the dispacement,boroscope for the flattops and bottom end inspection by way of access hole in the pan,make roller cams legal along with rockers. mabye dual plane cast intakes just to MAYBE keep costs in line, stock frt suspension and a max tire width (you pick it) with ladder bars or stock type suspension and a min weight...

could be done with minimum tech officials...and not much for teardowns.

whatcha think?
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #5
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I agree totally. Not that I'm smack dab in the middle of a 10.5 60 Corvette project, but I love the little motors and manual transmissions. I love Super/Stock and Stock, but if you watch the crowd reaction of, say a 10 Cobalt and then a crowd reaction to a moidified Chevy II or Corvette yankin gears....it's just more exciting. And that's what folks watch racing for....excitment! IMO. I would pay double to watch Modified and/or some type of drag racing where the driver actually did something between the starting line and 1250 feet. I did the S/G stuff, delay box, trans brake, throttle stop, let go of the button, then ride along, manage the finish line and that's it. I belive the enhancements mentioned do indeed provide more consistency. I will be using these in my SS/LA entry. But would love to see the driver be responsible for more of the run. No T-Brake, no air shift. No electronics, no Pneumatics. Just my opinion folks

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:09 PM   #6
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Great piece here:

http://www.competitionplus.com/2006_01/supermodified.html

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:30 PM   #7
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Nope Fadely Indy 1977


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