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Old 12-08-2011, 12:48 AM   #1
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Percentage wise, out of all the drag strip passes in a year, how many Stock Eliminator cars actually crash? You can't compare road racing or any other motorsport so that argument for light weight seats doesn't wash. I agree with Rory in that all the allowed "safety" and other improvements have long ago taken "Stock" out of Stock Class racing. I still thnk there is something wrong with a system that lets a Stock car cross over into Super Stock and still be a legitimate qualifier. Seems like one and the same car to me.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:13 AM   #2
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Percentage wise, out of all the drag strip passes in a year, how many Stock Eliminator cars actually crash? You can't compare road racing or any other motorsport so that argument for light weight seats doesn't wash. I agree with Rory in that all the allowed "safety" and other improvements have long ago taken "Stock" out of Stock Class racing. I still thnk there is something wrong with a system that lets a Stock car cross over into Super Stock and still be a legitimate qualifier. Seems like one and the same car to me.
With all the new cars going even faster, in lighter classes, I will guarantee the rate of on track incidents is going to go up sharply.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:51 AM   #3
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With all the new cars going even faster, in lighter classes, I will guarantee the rate of on track incidents is going to go up sharply.
Verifiable data? They said the same thing when the Hemi Cudas and Darts started running over 130. History has proven otherwise.

History also suggests that when the rules start allowing modifications to systems that the auto manufacturers spent millions to engineer to provide safe cars, people screw up and cause more accidents than the equipment.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for safe racing. Just don't "OSHA" yourself into making claims that are based on rationalized fear-based emotions rather than on the real world. How many people have been killed by three-year old seat belts? How many five-year old scattershields have failed?
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:24 AM   #4
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Percentage wise, out of all the drag strip passes in a year, how many Stock Eliminator cars actually crash? You can't compare road racing or any other motorsport so that argument for light weight seats doesn't wash. I agree with Rory in that all the allowed "safety" and other improvements have long ago taken "Stock" out of Stock Class racing. I still thnk there is something wrong with a system that lets a Stock car cross over into Super Stock and still be a legitimate qualifier. Seems like one and the same car to me.
and the comparison to SCCA was not to road racing but to Solo II autocross. That's one car on the track, in a set of cones, usually not exceeding 100mph. The see it fit to allow race seats because if they did not, and someone were injured in a method that could have been prevented, they feel that they would be responsible for it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:43 AM   #5
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I missed the subject on the post last year......thanks for the reply.........I don't know how they let super stock have it and not stock but I will not have a heart attack over it.....the worse thing to ever happen to stock and super stock racing was when they let head cheaters push them into the ported head rule in super stock.......it is happening now in stock all over again so we might as well join them if you can't beat them. It is only money.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:56 AM   #6
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Percentage wise, out of all the drag strip passes in a year, how many Stock Eliminator cars actually crash?
It only take one crash and a good seat could be the difference in saving a life.Some of those older cars are going 130mph + and old seat are not made for those speeds.

ps I'm not crying wolf.better safe than dead
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It only take one crash and a good seat could be the difference in saving a life.Some of those older cars are going 130mph + and old seat are not made for those speeds.

ps I'm not crying wolf.better safe than dead
exactly
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Is having to run factory seats really such a safety concern for some people? I always thought that the 5 point safety harness was what kept the driver in position, not the seat. Silly me.
ask woodro about that
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:05 PM   #9
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I think Rusty needs to lay off the ribs and brunswick stew.......
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I think Rusty needs to lay off the ribs and brunswick stew.......
That was brutal Kenny......I ask for it......!!!!!!!!!!!!
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