What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See

[Tom Goldman]

Hey Rich, It's nothing that cant be accomplished by anyone ...The problem is a lot of the young guys and some of the older ones, got spoiled by the .4 LED lights . .....A lot of them dont remember what it was like to have to work like crazy to even get a .030 light on a .4 incandescent bulb tree!....22" front tires ,and still having to stuff it in the lights!
Since the 10.90,9.90 or 8.90 et is attainable by anyone who is willing to refine their combination and can use a calculator or prediction program, reaction time ,both driver and car have become the last place where the driver / mechanic/ crew chief can really make a difference.
I feel the same way about going back to a .4 tree as a S/SS racer would when someone finds a soft combo and gets NHRA to pull 20 or 30 HP off of it and suddenly has a car that can go farther under the class index that the racers who have been flogging their cars for years to get to the same level of performance.
I know it sounds harsh,but work on you car,yes, you might have to give up some coin ,but more often than not ,the racers having a hard time hitting the tree are good on the practice tree,but spend no time at the track experimenting with shock settings , 4link, tire pressure,ect.
BTW I havnt been on the practice tree in over 3 years, It became more of a game than a tool......And over the last three races of the season ,my reaction time average was .008. ..this included three .003 rt's in a row at Atco and two .000's at MapleGrove.

[billy leber]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

I dont understand the bitchin about the tree.
My old car at 2750# and a 30year old 468 still had .020 to .030 in the box on a .370 tree.
They put all those holes in the 4 link and knobs on the shocks fo a reason ya know!
I have to run as much as .080 in the box at the MASGA races on a true .4 tree..and let me tell you it sucks when you have that much in ,when you miss the tree, you REALLY miss the tree!

Agree with Tom, Im all for a .350 tree,maybe even lower! Sorry Fletchburg.

[Rich Biebel]

How about a tree for old guys...LOL

I had .050 in the box with my old dragster on a .400 tree at Numidia and was .006 one round. That was the fastest I can ever recall being on a Pro Tree.


Tom my friend you know I know all about not being able to get under a .430 or .440 shallow on a .400 Tree.......I once had 3 sets of front wheels and tires.....and used them to try and adjust my RT's......A little roll does wonders though untill you turn it red.........been there and done that.....

[Tom Goldman]

Originally Posted by billy leber

Agree with Tom, Im all for a .350 tree,maybe even lower! Sorry Fletchburg.

Billy, I thought Iggy and myself were the only ones in favor of a .350 tree!!
Some of these guys just dont get it , it dosnt matter what you call the tree .4 .5 , .370. If everyone can hit a .000 light and go red at will without having to work at making it happen where is the skill involved?
Super classes have become something that a lot of racers see as something to jump into when they feel like it , and go bracket racing every other time.
Most of the successful Super class racers know that there are serious compromises to be made on a car to be able to hit the tree at any track , in any weather. ....And it's not just about having huge HP or big motors.....I know of more than a few low HP cars with ladder bar suspension that can hit the tree........ ... I've tried to help a few racers with RT's over the years,most only needed to make a few small changes to their chassis setup,but I repetedly heard, Oh, I cant Bracket race it like that!
If you cant hit the tree as it is , then maybe the Super classes arent for you. ...And I dont mean any disrespect to you as a racer or to your equipment, it's just that as a racer who has raced in the Super Classes since their inception, I've seen a lot of changes in the class , good and bad . ....Many good racers have gone back to Brackets rather than adapt to the realities that make a car competitive in the .90 classes.