Challenger Drag Pak Owners

[D.Holly]

Drooze, just want to say that I have been following along as you prepared for your first outing. I wish you and your Dad the best of luck.

[art leong]

I understood that the way they interpret the rules today. If the valve makes a notch in the piston, it would not be allowed.
Years ago with the hemi car we would put a worn out set of valve springs on the motor.
Do a few burnouts with the car. Then take the head off grind the valves, put the real springs on. And go racing, It made it hard to exchange heads, as the notches were head specific. That was when they checked for duration and overlap.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Yeah I heard that here.

I tipped a valve and I called Bruce to see if I was going to have to ?

He said not an issue.

So I wont worry about it

He said that was more an issue "previously" and it would have been a DQ when they checked duration etc.

Hammers work too Im sure Art

Originally Posted by art leong

I understood that the way they interpret the rules today. If the valve makes a notch in the piston, it would not be allowed.
Years ago with the hemi car we would put a worn out set of valve springs on the motor.
Do a few burnouts with the car. Then take the head off grind the valves, put the real springs on. And go racing, It made it hard to exchange heads, as the notches were head specific. That was when they checked for duration and overlap.

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by drooze

A note confirmed by Bruce B.

PTV Contact is NOT a DQ, it USED to be , it is NO LONGER. That when DURATION was in the mix.

#24 Is BACK Together and Ready for Testing.

Valve issue, combination of issues either my fault, clearances on Rocker setup and retainer choice, valve job was more aggresive and cutting of valves on this head setup, clearance I didnt like, looks like I had reason not to caused Lock condition on exhaust rocker. Confirmed by Pro Stock head guy that did our heads (independently), solved, reassembled.

See some track Saturday......

Adding second fuel filter and different alternator pulley

Zip Zap relax..........

When you get some time...enroll in a course that teaches English. And also how to type slow enough to form a sentence that can be easily understood by an average citizen of the realm like myself....


Or do you write and think in some sort of code that only Drag Pak owners can understand.......

After all these posts and blogs and
drives up and down the highways and broken stuff and missed dates ...I truly hope you make a run sometime soon.......Only probelm is it will percipitate an endless string of posts and blogs and probably more things gone wrong.

Make a run already!!!!!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

When you get some time...enroll in a course that teaches English. And also how to type slow enough to form a sentence that can be easily understood by an average citizen of the realm like myself....


Or do you write and think in some sort of code that only Drag Pak owners can understand.......

After all these posts and blogs and
drives up and down the highways and broken stuff and missed dates ...I truly hope you make a run sometime soon.......Only probelm is it will percipitate an endless string of posts and blogs and probably more things gone wrong.

Make a run already!!!!!

Rich maybe it is a Hemi thing. Because I understand him. LOL

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

When you get some time...enroll in a course that teaches English. And also how to type slow enough to form a sentence that can be easily understood by an average citizen of the realm like myself....

Yeah........nope, not gonna happen....(doing my best Dana Carvey GHB impersonation)

Or do you write and think in some sort of code that only Drag Pak
owners can understand.......

Oooopppsssss, caught me you did (doing my best Yoda Impersonation)

After all these posts and blogs and
drives up and down the highways and broken stuff and missed dates ...I truly hope you make a run sometime soon.......Only probelm is it will percipitate an endless string of posts and blogs and probably more things gone wrong.

Well, the blog is yours to read or not.....

If Im not breaking things Im not doing them right, OUR way.

I can build something forever reliable
I can build something wicked fast

I cannot do both.

I could do something in between and sometimes I do, here I did to a point, my hands have not been in the bottom end, and thats pretty "stock" I would have loosened it up significantly.

The best running setups are a hair away from destruction.

Our valves are cut more than most would, they also will flow better than most. Our seats are cut as well, more than most would comfortably do, they as well flow massive amounts over the stock seat configuration, the castings absolutley untouched.

Our PTV clearances are closer than most would run.

Our springs are installed .020 off bind. But they have a higher rate by nearly 100 than anything anyone is running on these, in addition my full open pressure is higher.

I cant imagine I wont break something, all I need this motor for is 3 nationals....then it goes on the shelf.

Next motor is already underway.

missed dates

We still have built a legal car in less time than any other DP team. By nearly a month if you count it at Saturday.

Im pretty proud me and the old man pulled it off. Had the bottom end not gone, OR had he not been in the hospital with pneumonia and clots in Jan, and had my son not been in the hospital 10 or 12 days I spent with him in Cincy, we would have made it.....what was more Important ?

Well run already and were gonnnaaaa gooo fffffffaaaaaaaassssssttttt

(Ok Ill be happy with 10.3 on the first 5 full passes, Ive been told Im an idiot by people that know everything weve done, but I would preffer to be more conservative than their gracious estimates)

[Rich Biebel]

OK Art I apologize......I realize Hemi's are just not normal....It's scary though that you understand.....your from New York !

What about Tex.....did he speak Hemi lingo with his Texas drawl?

Drooze....if you don't go in the 9's I will be wondering how you have the nads to post all this stuff...

You boast and spew all kinds of stuff and your right it's my choice to read it......It's a public forum....

Most people let their on track performance do the talking.......in your case their is nothing so far......Put some rubber down and make some runs and get back to us with the numbers.....

Looks like some others have laid down some numbers for you to shoot for.....

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

OK Art I apologize......I realize Hemi's are just not normal....It's scary though that you understand.....your from New York !

What about Tex.....did he speak Hemi lingo with his Texas drawl?

....

That's New Yawk.
Tex never had to understand he was the driver, just point and pull the lever. LOL

[Rich Biebel]

I saw Ray a lot up at Island over the years and always said hello.....I liked the "Famous Ray" nickname......he was always smiling and often was in the diner after the races.......He was driving a comp car now and then....and I think hung out with Emil E's group.......

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I saw Ray a lot up at Island over the years and always said hello.....I liked the "Famous Ray" nickname......he was always smiling and often was in the diner after the races.......He was driving a comp car now and then....and I think hung out with Emil E's group.......

That was "Fomerly Famous Ray Cook". Even in the comp car he was good he just didn't have the power.