Why is there NO '09 IHRA Stock & S/S World Points Champion ???

Sid Munson1091 · 12-20-2009, 10:51 AM

I've looked everywhere there is to look on the IHRA website and for the life of me I can't even find the Top-50 point standings for Stock/S/s much less who ended up being crowned the '09 World points Champion in IHRA Stock & S/s??? Does IHRA now only have World Points Champions in the Pro catagorys or what's the deal anyone know???

Myron Piatek · 12-20-2009, 11:03 AM

http://www.ihra.com/article/5353.html

Sid Munson1091 · 12-20-2009, 11:21 AM

Myron...a IHRA Tournament of Champions your kidding right??? That's gotta be the dumbest thing IHRA has come up with yet to date isn't it?? The only way to crown or determine the World Champion is by points...the driver who has the most points at the end of the season in both Stock/S/s is crowned the IHRA '09 World Champion right ?? That's the way it's been done since the begining of time seems like it's always worked out pretty good that way why on earth would they change it now??? No wonder IHRA only gets 1/3 the amount of cars at a event compaired to NHRA lol !!!

RJ · 12-20-2009, 11:31 AM

NHRA used to do it the same way.

Sid Munson1091 · 12-20-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

NHRA used to do it the same way.

Guys pay attention & don't shoot the messenger because he speaks the truth.....the key thing to remember here is that NHRA "use to do it"....THEY DON'T DO IT THAT WAY NOW !!! Want to know why?? IT DIDN'T WORK that's why hello!!!! Myron are you telling me that if your in 1st place in Stock World points most of the entire season and got the next closest guy beat by 8 rounds points going into the last event of the year...then went to this Tourament of Champions deal & lost 1st rd. you'ed be happy NOT BEING THE WORLD CHAMPION??? Come on I don't buy that why on earth doesn't everyone complain to the IHRA brass big wigs & explain to them how stupid this is????

mbrace5 · 12-20-2009, 03:12 PM

I think by the current way, a racer could run one race and win it, and win the tournament at the end of the year and be champion, right?

442OLDS · 12-20-2009, 03:34 PM

IHRA is FAR (VERY FAR) from being a "perfect organization",but how else could they crown a "World Champ"?
If they went to a format where you take your best 3 of 6 Nationals like NHRA,there probably wouldn't be more than 10 total people in the running for the "World Championship".
They don't have races any where near over half of the United States.
I know this isn't the best way to do it,but lets hear some better ideas.

Steves68Nova · 12-20-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mbrace5

I think by the current way, a racer could run one race and win it, and win the tournament at the end of the year and be champion, right?

I have to agree here. A racer who wins less than a ten rounds whould not be World Champ. I do not know how many rounds there is at the TOC, but there were 3 rounds in Tulsa in Stock and the winner qualifyed. I do not remember who won, but I would not think there would be more than 7 rounds in the TOC so *if* the winner was this guy thats all he would have to win. Thats not right I don't care how good the guy is. I can understand the folks wanting to make it more exciting, but world champs should be more than that.

btw Mike Cotton was the winner with 6 cars there in stock. I know the guy is a great driver and has a great car, but less then a dozen rounds does not deserve a world championship.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

Myron Piatek · 12-20-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid Munson1091

Guys pay attention & don't shoot the messenger because he speaks the truth.....the key thing to remember here is that NHRA "use to do it"....THEY DON'T DO IT THAT WAY NOW !!! Want to know why?? IT DIDN'T WORK that's why hello!!!! Myron are you telling me that if your in 1st place in Stock World points most of the entire season and got the next closest guy beat by 8 rounds points going into the last event of the year...then went to this Tourament of Champions deal & lost 1st rd. you'ed be happy NOT BEING THE WORLD CHAMPION??? Come on I don't buy that why on earth doesn't everyone complain to the IHRA brass big wigs & explain to them how stupid this is????

I did say that the concept had its plusses and minuses. The examples you and mbrace5 gave would naturally be very frustrating, especially after doing it the other way ever since I started. But everyone is in the same boat. I don't make the rules, just follow them if I want to race. But "right now" IHRA feels that this will help keep sportsman racing viable for them and 2010 should give the final answer. As others have brought up, the geographic locations and economy make it difficult for more than the same dozen or dozen & a 1/2 people to be able to race for it. So it does provide more opportunities.

I also like Tracy's suggestion to minimize "one shot wonders".

442OLDS · 12-20-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

I also like Tracy's suggestion to minimize "one shot wonders".

What defines a "one shot wonder"?

If the "Tournament of Champions" were finished to completion,my pick would have been Scotty Richardson.

If he had won,would he be known as a "one shot wonder"?

12-20-2009, 10:51 AM	#1
Sid Munson1091 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Buffalo,N.Y. Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why is there NO '09 IHRA Stock & S/S World Points Champion ??? I've looked everywhere there is to look on the IHRA website and for the life of me I can't even find the Top-50 point standings for Stock/S/s much less who ended up being crowned the '09 World points Champion in IHRA Stock & S/s??? Does IHRA now only have World Points Champions in the Pro catagorys or what's the deal anyone know???

12-20-2009, 11:03 AM	#2
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Sid Munson1091 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Buffalo,N.Y. Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why is there NO '09 IHRA Stock & S/S World Points Champion ??? Myron...a IHRA Tournament of Champions your kidding right??? That's gotta be the dumbest thing IHRA has come up with yet to date isn't it?? The only way to crown or determine the World Champion is by points...the driver who has the most points at the end of the season in both Stock/S/s is crowned the IHRA '09 World Champion right ?? That's the way it's been done since the begining of time seems like it's always worked out pretty good that way why on earth would they change it now??? No wonder IHRA only gets 1/3 the amount of cars at a event compaired to NHRA lol !!!

12-20-2009, 11:31 AM	#4
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442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Why is there NO '09 IHRA Stock & S/S World Points Champion ??? IHRA is FAR (VERY FAR) from being a "perfect organization",but how else could they crown a "World Champ"? If they went to a format where you take your best 3 of 6 Nationals like NHRA,there probably wouldn't be more than 10 total people in the running for the "World Championship". They don't have races any where near over half of the United States. I know this isn't the best way to do it,but lets hear some better ideas.