Spark Plug Adapters

Tom Meyer · 07-08-2009, 02:18 PM

Boy am I glad I did not buy the angle plug adapters, NHRA just said they are not legal, another 300 bucks saved. Tom

Greg Hill · 07-08-2009, 06:08 PM

This is interesting. I saw a letter from the National tech department In California signed by Danny Gracias that stated that the spark plug adaptors were legal. In the order of full disclosure let it be known that i have a set of them.

james schaechter · 07-08-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

Boy am I glad I did not buy the angle plug adapters, NHRA just said they are not legal, another 300 bucks saved. Tom

Tom, is that reversal posted or communicated anywhere official? How were you informed specifically? I saw the letter also so I would guess if they actually made a decision there would be an an official posting somewhere. Jim

Greg Hill · 07-08-2009, 06:19 PM

Jim. it's on the Lucas site.

BlueOval Ralph · 07-08-2009, 06:39 PM

Could/ would you provide the link??
Thanks
Ralph

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Jim. it's on the Lucas site.

Mark Callanan · 07-08-2009, 06:51 PM

http://www.nhra.net/content/sportsma...7253&zoneid=85

james schaechter · 07-08-2009, 07:32 PM

Thanks for the link. I have a set and as things go it happens, I understand that, but it is a rather arrogant way to post it. If they would not have specifically allowed them, the "reminder" would have been appropriate. Since NHRA actually approved them and then rescinded the ruling, it would be more appropriate to note the change from their previous ruling. At least they are easy to take out.

Conway Witten · 07-08-2009, 09:05 PM

To all concerned, I did the best that I could to do things by the book. It's just that there are more powerful people involved. This did prove what I found by wet flowing and there is still more to come. They were not a mistake, it was a planned effort.
I was misled, Conway Witten
3711 SS/BA, SS/HA, SS/IA GT/AA, GT/BA, GT/FA, 307 B/ED

SS Engine Guy · 07-08-2009, 10:53 PM

I didn't see any wording about angled spark plug seats. Adapters to me means going from one size plug to another. (I am aware that these used a "smaller plug") However, an "adapter" has many meanings. Isn't an indexing washer a device that "adapts" plug electrode placement to be in a more favorable location for flame propagation? These weren't installed at the factory. So are those "spark plug indexing adapters" now illegal? I'm sure that Conway knows what he is talking about considering that he engineered them. I guess if you are going to toss Conway's innovation you might as well take a look at all the SS heads that have been welded up and redrilled to optimum plug location. At least we all know that operation is supposedly against the rules and to my knowledge, (inside information limited) never had a letter approving it. For what its worth,(very little) I have several "letters" that aren't worth the paper they are printed on. In my opinion, Conway engineered and got "approved" a device that made some hp.
With that "reminder" I would be very suspicious that someone is trying to get a patent on some similar device under a different name. Not like it hasn't happened before.

Shouldn't the reminder read?: Any device or procedure that causes relocation of the spark plug from its original factory placement or angle is prohibited.
At least it sounds more like someone was indicating a rule and not creating another "grey area".

Conway Witten · 07-09-2009, 07:58 PM

Hey Conway,

Nhra removed the adapter post from the Lucas site.

Jim Marshall

http://sportsman.nhra.com/

Thanks Jim, Conway

07-08-2009, 02:18 PM	#1
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 933 Likes: 74 Liked 351 Times in 120 Posts	Spark Plug Adapters Boy am I glad I did not buy the angle plug adapters, NHRA just said they are not legal, another 300 bucks saved. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ???

07-08-2009, 06:08 PM	#2
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Spark Plug Adapters This is interesting. I saw a letter from the National tech department In California signed by Danny Gracias that stated that the spark plug adaptors were legal. In the order of full disclosure let it be known that i have a set of them. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

07-08-2009, 06:19 PM	#4
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Spark Plug Adapters Jim. it's on the Lucas site. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

07-08-2009, 06:51 PM	#6
Mark Callanan Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: southern maine Posts: 383 Likes: 155 Liked 64 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Spark Plug Adapters http://www.nhra.net/content/sportsma...7253&zoneid=85 __________________ Mark Callanan 1027 STK

07-08-2009, 07:32 PM	#7
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,985 Likes: 1,277 Liked 1,424 Times in 294 Posts	Re: Spark Plug Adapters Thanks for the link. I have a set and as things go it happens, I understand that, but it is a rather arrogant way to post it. If they would not have specifically allowed them, the "reminder" would have been appropriate. Since NHRA actually approved them and then rescinded the ruling, it would be more appropriate to note the change from their previous ruling. At least they are easy to take out. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

07-08-2009, 09:05 PM	#8
Conway Witten Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Spark Plug Adapters To all concerned, I did the best that I could to do things by the book. It's just that there are more powerful people involved. This did prove what I found by wet flowing and there is still more to come. They were not a mistake, it was a planned effort. I was misled, Conway Witten 3711 SS/BA, SS/HA, SS/IA GT/AA, GT/BA, GT/FA, 307 B/ED

07-08-2009, 10:53 PM	#9
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Spark Plug Adapters I didn't see any wording about angled spark plug seats. Adapters to me means going from one size plug to another. (I am aware that these used a "smaller plug") However, an "adapter" has many meanings. Isn't an indexing washer a device that "adapts" plug electrode placement to be in a more favorable location for flame propagation? These weren't installed at the factory. So are those "spark plug indexing adapters" now illegal? I'm sure that Conway knows what he is talking about considering that he engineered them. I guess if you are going to toss Conway's innovation you might as well take a look at all the SS heads that have been welded up and redrilled to optimum plug location. At least we all know that operation is supposedly against the rules and to my knowledge, (inside information limited) never had a letter approving it. For what its worth,(very little) I have several "letters" that aren't worth the paper they are printed on. In my opinion, Conway engineered and got "approved" a device that made some hp. With that "reminder" I would be very suspicious that someone is trying to get a patent on some similar device under a different name. Not like it hasn't happened before. Shouldn't the reminder read?: Any device or procedure that causes relocation of the spark plug from its original factory placement or angle is prohibited. At least it sounds more like someone was indicating a rule and not creating another "grey area". Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 07-08-2009 at 11:42 PM.

07-09-2009, 07:58 PM	#10
Conway Witten Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Spark Plug Adapters Hey Conway, Nhra removed the adapter post from the Lucas site. Jim Marshall http://sportsman.nhra.com/ Thanks Jim, Conway