Challenger Drag Pak Owners

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Agreed......

Its not like Stock Elim is heads up anyway......BUT , PERHAPS , if the cars are moved into their own class it would/could be....or something of the like.

Youre right I will have NO joy in beating 40 yr old iron if its another A or AA car in a heads up run, Im sure they will...and there are some that will be able to that have "laid low" I think.... UNLESS its a driver win. Then, well....the car is a moot point.

A seperate question unrelated, what is a good .4 pro tree RT ? I mean good/fair average ? (unrelated curiousity) ? Like as in what would "acceptable" consistency be for that to be competitive ? Im too tired to go get my "Stats" and well.....since I keep forgetting to mail Joe Jackson the check on my desk......I have decided not to allow myself to read them until its mailed

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Should not be any problem......Stock HP ratings are totally ARBITRARY so NHRA makes them whatever they need to be so the Mustangs and Challengers run together. Add a Camaro when GM decides to build one that could compete and you'd have something everyone could enjoy......

Watching a New Blown Mustang or DP Challenger run and hide from a 40+ year old Muscle car is not my idea of fair competetion. All it shows is that the HP ratings are bogus.....

[Rich Biebel]

A good RT on any tree is one that wins the round.....no matter what it is.......but if you are not capable of going .00 then your not competitive at most races.......Last time I won a S/C Lucas oil race I went .007-.002 and .013 first 3 rounds and they were all close......

I lost a race with a .010 Rt and ran dead on with a 3 in S/C...it was a .0006 MOV.........to the other lane........

All the S/ classes are "killer"......


I was not suggesting that you have to run heads up with these new cars. Just pointing out that they are improperly factored HP wise and they need to move up. Since there are no more classes up, they need to create them.....and move these cars up where they belong....

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

A good RT on any tree is one that wins the round.....no matter what it is.

Lol..Ill buy that......

Off topic curiosity, I think the VRT on the car was pretty slow, I wonder why some of the higher classes are slower in avg RT its certainly not the lack of quality drivers, so its either intentional setup or vrt.

I had not driven against a .4 pro tree and all my slips (8, less 1 were consistent) the old mans were too , but well.... a bit faster as always...some parents bitch about their kids playing video games, from the 70's up I bitched about my dad playing them Hes still the "Pinball Wizard" sick on a set of flippers.....lol.....I think thats where my son mr .008, I still cant figure out how a kid hits .008 so often, it has to be the setup, well see this year....but last year "another 008" was the announcer call when he ran... as we call him gets it....It must have skipped a generation ...

I didnt see the last part, I knew you werent suggesting that, I was just "thinking" out loud....I understood you....

[CBS]

I would certainly enjoy beating a 40 year blue camaro with our mustang....lol

It's really fast....and we aren't bad either....

I know a couple of cans would be tipped afterwards......lol

Rock.....

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by CBS

I would certainly enjoy beating a 40 year blue camaro with our mustang....lol

It's really fast....and we aren't bad either....

I know a couple of cans would be tipped afterwards......lol

Rock.....

I really enjoyed beating this Camaro with my 2005 4x4 Hemi Ram pickup. He didn't like it one bit cause after that race he trailered up and went home. lol

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[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Jerry, I saw the purple 72 I thought, **** they stole my car....lol....

At least I see someone else loves the sadmouths.

But yall aint right up there in minnesota, I think it has to do with frontal lobe frostbite......11 second trucks sheesh....whats next 8 second Challengers.....I mean really.

Ive got some dyno info for you come friday evening give me a call then, kinda like the Jaws movie.....

"I got a taxidermy man back home gonna have a heart attack when he sees what I brung him"

Hows your DP build going ?

OH OH OH, Call me found out something about rear crossmembers on these, NOT Kosher, not with the NHRA, not with Bruce, NOT Kosher......

Ours dosent of course, but we were "considering" one for our 2nd car....but I figgered I better check like on Coughlins car what I see and well what I "Think" im seeing, and.....give me a call....

You too Mack....that was what I forgot to tell you today since youre to the Chassis shop......

Mike at MPRs suspension is what was approved, there is some variance but in talking with the NHRA, not much....not a whole lot of room for "creative liscense" as it were.....I was gonna try too though for #2

Cheers

Chris

Originally Posted by hemidup

I really enjoyed beating this Camaro with my 2005 4x4 Hemi Ram pickup. He didn't like it one bit cause after that race he trailered up and went home. lol

http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/k...falls001-1.flv

[Rich Biebel]

Just keep in mind what happened to Quint a little later in the movie..........Jaws put the big hurt on his dumb butt........

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by drooze

Agreed......

Its not like Stock Elim is heads up anyway......BUT , PERHAPS , if the cars are moved into their own class it would/could be....or something of the like.

Youre right I will have NO joy in beating 40 yr old iron if its another A or AA car in a heads up run, Im sure they will...and there are some that will be able to that have "laid low" I think.... UNLESS its a driver win. Then, well....the car is a moot point.

A seperate question unrelated, what is a good .4 pro tree RT ? I mean good/fair average ? (unrelated curiousity) ? Like as in what would "acceptable" consistency be for that to be competitive ? Im too tired to go get my "Stats" and well.....since I keep forgetting to mail Joe Jackson the check on my desk......I have decided not to allow myself to read them until its mailed

.4 pro tree would be be nice, then it would just be see light and react.... but you aren't going to see it in Stock and Super Stock... you are going to have to wait on the full .5 tree like everyone else......different tracks and different timing systems....you can search the site for the sage like advice from the guys who just seem to always go deep into the race. Its all about the package time....

You might get lucky and the vehicle RT plus the driver RT is in the narrow window .00-.03(this is on the outside)....but you should be realistic with your expectations...chasis setup, leave rpms, air pressure, and tire sizes all need to be right, and take a lot of reps to dial in. Its easy with a rocket ship FI car to go red.

Its why everyone has a log book!

The coveted secret squirrel patch may be out of reach for the moment. But I am sure all will enjoy the show in CA.

Eric

[hemidup]

Hey Drooze, DP #40 is slooooowly coming along. As you know, we work on the car in our spare time. In fact, I gave it less than an hour today and that was all spent on R&D in the valve train. Don is staying late tonite working on the rear end. I did find out that Manley submitted a connecting rod to NHRA and they also told me they don't make a Beehive that will survive the rpm's. You knew that, I knew that, I'm just throwing it out there to save someone from an uneccessary phone call.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

rofl.....but the end was fairly quick

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Just keep in mind what happened to Quint a little later in the movie..........Jaws put the big hurt on his dumb butt........