Lt 1 ???

Camaro Nut · 04-01-2008, 07:05 PM

Does any body know of any body running a FACTORY stock short block in NHRA stock elimanator. I am thinking about trying it for the first year. I allready picked up a nice set of heads and a cam done by Bud Rowe. So I am thinking about just doing the heads and cam and then have a brand new motor done for next year .I plan on doing headers,12 bolt raer,all susspension work ETC. and just get the car out and see if I could run under the index. Any help and advice would be grate Thanks

Rich Biebel · 04-02-2008, 08:15 AM

I met a racer who had an LT-1 Camaro and he said he had a stock shortblock with just a cam and he did the heads. He was able to run under the index by a few tenths running in C/FIA in decent air. I think he broke it after some runs though. I helped him correct a problem with his Accel DFI.

Camaro Nut · 04-02-2008, 08:03 PM

What is the weak link on a stock short block? Is it the rod?

Alan Roehrich · 04-02-2008, 08:34 PM

If it has powdered rods, yes, the rod is the weak link. That doesn't mean that's the first, or only thing that will fail. But I'd replace the rods if I was going to race it.

Camaro Nut · 04-03-2008, 08:06 PM

Do you think if I was to take a stock short block and install a good set of rods in it I would be able to get away with running it like that for about 100 runs. I am just trying to get the car out and get some runs on it to see if the susspension works and then have a good bullet built.

Woodro Josey · 04-03-2008, 08:17 PM

Alan is correct about the rods, and while it is down, get someone to hone it with torque plates. Also, the Optispark is also a weak link, go ahead and purchase the MSD Rotor and Cap kit and this should take care of that problem!

Alan Roehrich · 04-03-2008, 08:33 PM

That's a thought Woodro. If you take it apart, to replace the rods, you'll have to balance it as well. But if you'll hone it with torque plates (have this done by a shop capable of doing RACE work) and get a ring package (made for Stock Eliminator) from some one like Total Seal, Childs and Albert, or Ackerly and Childs, and set the deck height, you'll get a good return on your money. Woodro can probably steer you right on a ring pack. His little LT1 whips up on my 427!

Alan Roehrich · 04-03-2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1664SSJA

With all that being done his "stock bottom end" is only pistons away from a good piece.
Go the distance!

Not really. I'd want to pour it and bore it before I'd invest in new pistons, and it'd also get align honed. It'd need a fully prepped crank (blueprint stroked and indexed) as well. A lot more money and work.

Glenn Briglio · 04-04-2008, 05:29 AM

We've done it both ways, using a stock short block and a "done" short block. Give me a call. Glenn.(516) 599-7182.

Chuck Garey · 04-04-2008, 06:51 AM

If your near Virginia I have a short block ready to assemble, coated venolia's, eagle rods, bearings, already bored, decked, etc.
$2,000.00

04-01-2008, 07:05 PM	#1
Camaro Nut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lt 1 ??? Does any body know of any body running a FACTORY stock short block in NHRA stock elimanator. I am thinking about trying it for the first year. I allready picked up a nice set of heads and a cam done by Bud Rowe. So I am thinking about just doing the heads and cam and then have a brand new motor done for next year .I plan on doing headers,12 bolt raer,all susspension work ETC. and just get the car out and see if I could run under the index. Any help and advice would be grate Thanks

04-02-2008, 08:15 AM	#2
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? I met a racer who had an LT-1 Camaro and he said he had a stock shortblock with just a cam and he did the heads. He was able to run under the index by a few tenths running in C/FIA in decent air. I think he broke it after some runs though. I helped him correct a problem with his Accel DFI. __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

04-02-2008, 08:03 PM	#3
Camaro Nut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? What is the weak link on a stock short block? Is it the rod?

04-02-2008, 08:34 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,097 Likes: 1,542 Liked 1,775 Times in 404 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? If it has powdered rods, yes, the rod is the weak link. That doesn't mean that's the first, or only thing that will fail. But I'd replace the rods if I was going to race it. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-03-2008, 08:06 PM	#5
Camaro Nut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? Do you think if I was to take a stock short block and install a good set of rods in it I would be able to get away with running it like that for about 100 runs. I am just trying to get the car out and get some runs on it to see if the susspension works and then have a good bullet built.

04-03-2008, 08:17 PM	#6
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Lt 1 ??? Alan is correct about the rods, and while it is down, get someone to hone it with torque plates. Also, the Optispark is also a weak link, go ahead and purchase the MSD Rotor and Cap kit and this should take care of that problem! __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

04-03-2008, 08:33 PM	#7
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,097 Likes: 1,542 Liked 1,775 Times in 404 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? That's a thought Woodro. If you take it apart, to replace the rods, you'll have to balance it as well. But if you'll hone it with torque plates (have this done by a shop capable of doing RACE work) and get a ring package (made for Stock Eliminator) from some one like Total Seal, Childs and Albert, or Ackerly and Childs, and set the deck height, you'll get a good return on your money. Woodro can probably steer you right on a ring pack. His little LT1 whips up on my 427! __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-04-2008, 05:29 AM	#9
Glenn Briglio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massapequa Park,NY Posts: 1,280 Likes: 1,889 Liked 965 Times in 306 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? We've done it both ways, using a stock short block and a "done" short block. Give me a call. Glenn.(516) 599-7182. Last edited by Glenn Briglio; 04-04-2008 at 05:31 AM. Reason: forgot telephone number

04-04-2008, 06:51 AM	#10
Chuck Garey Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 173 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Lt 1 ??? If your near Virginia I have a short block ready to assemble, coated venolia's, eagle rods, bearings, already bored, decked, etc. $2,000.00