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Paul Ceasrine 07-30-2013 03:57 PM

1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
What is it they asked...

1965 Plymouth Barracuda 273/235 HP Commando

Classed in F/SA in 1965 -

Doug Patterson won the F/SA Class at the 1965 NHRA Springnationals.

Then went on to Runner-Up in Junior Stock Eliminator.

In September 1965, set the NHRA National Record.

13.62 @ 102.95 MPH

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_l...%20Stocker.jpg

Charlie A 07-30-2013 10:27 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
Personal favorite:

http://racecarregistry.com/images/Ra.../scan0001a.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 07-30-2013 10:52 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
Charley A,

Check out those 'tubes'

In 1965, try finding a Header Company that made a good set of tubular headers for the 273 A-Body......

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ta65cuda-1.jpg

Charlie A 07-31-2013 09:15 AM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 392810)
Charley A,

Check out those 'tubes'

In 1965, try finding a Header Company that made a good set of tubular headers for the 273 A-Body......

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ta65cuda-1.jpg

Guessing they were trying to stay"equal length" and just could not fit it all under the hood. Funny now....way cool then!

Paul Ceasrine 07-31-2013 01:22 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
October 1965

NHRA 'F/S' National Record Holder

13.44 @ 103.68 MPH

http://www.plymouthzone.com/featured...indstrom_2.jpg

Rob Ayres 08-08-2013 09:04 AM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
That 13.62 record was an altitude adjusted record. The actual time the car ran was 13.98 at Bristol. Fred and Doug had a fast little cuda but there was no way those cars would in the 13.60's in 1965. That record was what forced us to move to a 180 hp -273 and run I/SA, and later N/SA. Our first set of headers actually exited in front of the front tires. The small engine compartment forced you to be a little creative with header technology. Then Dougs and Stahl came up with nice designs for the little cars. A pain to install, but nothing was easy with those little cars.

Paul Ceasrine 08-08-2013 12:06 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
Rob,

Weren't they protested because of the use of the controversial
Carter #3447 AFB Carburetor, which was permitted by the NHRA.

The 600 CFM rated unit, that was used on the 1963 '426 Max-Wedge' engine.

The #3447 had a 1 7/16" Primary and 1 11/16" Secondary, and the
273 Cast Iron Intake required the 'secondary' bore hole to be opened up.

That 600 CFM AFB did make a big difference over the 'stock' 500 CFM AFB.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_l...%20Stocker.jpg

Rob Ayres 08-08-2013 01:23 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
I don't remember anything about that. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I agree, going to a 600 cfm carb would have helped the little cars a bunch.

Paul Ceasrine 08-08-2013 10:42 PM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
Rob,

Weren't the 1965 - 273/235 HP - Barracuda's listed at #2930 lbs. {Shipping Weight}, which put them a 'hair' under the 12.50 Wt/Hp.

Yet, the NHRA permitted them into the {12.50 to 13.99 Wt/Hp} F/S and F/SA Stock Class in 1965.

Rob Ayres 08-09-2013 07:50 AM

Re: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
 
No, the shipping weight was 2940 lbs which put it at 12.51 lbs per HP. The car was made for the class. If you ever want to check any of the original shipping weights on the older stuff, I have all of the original NHRA classification guides and spec sheets from the 60's.


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