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Lonnie Cox 06-24-2011 09:36 PM

Intake Center Line
 
My question is if your intake center line is set at 108 and should be 102 would you have less clearance piston to valve? I think we found our problem being down on power. I now am worried about clearance. Should I be?
Thanks to all of you for helping.:)

Ed Wright 06-24-2011 09:44 PM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Your intake valve would have more clearance at 108 than 102.

Bob Bender 06-24-2011 09:54 PM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 265445)
Your intake valve would have more clearance at 108 than 102.

x2

Bob Gullett 06-24-2011 10:54 PM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
http://www.compcams.com/Technical/FAQ/LSAproperties.asp

Ron Gusack 06-24-2011 11:56 PM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 265445)
Your intake valve would have more clearance at 108 than 102.

And the exhaust clearance will be less.

Alan Roehrich 06-25-2011 12:55 AM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
If you are now moving your intake center line to 102 from 108, to correct your problem, you will decrease intake valve to piston clearance.

Ed Wright 06-25-2011 08:50 AM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Gusack (Post 265458)
And the exhaust clearance will be less.

Of course.

Greg Reimer 7376 06-25-2011 11:00 PM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Advancing the cam decreases the intake piston to valve clearance and increases the exhaust piston to valve clearance.Retarding the cam that much increases the intake piston to valve clearance,and decreases the exhaust valve piston to valve clearance. Also, advancing the cam increases torque and reduces peak horsepower.Retarding the cam decreases torque and increases peak horsepower.Wouldn't it be great to be able to use a variable cam timing device that allows you to leave the line in at 98,and cross the finish line in at 108?Also, the weight of your car can affect where the engine wants the cam. My K/SA 68 Chevelle hardtop might just want it somewhere else than my O/SA 68 Chevelle wagon.Those two cars weigh 490 pounds different.

Jim B 06-26-2011 06:59 AM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
I don't know your application but you may want to invest a couple of minutes and leak the engine before a trip back to the track. In a minimum valve clearance built engine running the cam 6ยบ retarded from the checking centerline will reduce exhaust piston to valve clearance beyond the safety margin and the piston may wind up closing the valve. It may not apply to you but it's just a thought.

Adger Smith 06-26-2011 11:52 AM

Re: Intake Center Line
 
Lonnie,
You got some very good answers in this thread.
I would never consider moving the cam around, very much, to get PTV clearance. Depending on the lobe profile & rocker ratio you only get between .005 to .008 clearance (change) per degree of cam movement. Some more, some less....
Another issue with retarding the cam is the ex valve will open at a later point in the cycle. A late opening of the ex valve can be a problem when trying to produce power at high rpm. At high RPM it can cause lost power by what is called pumping losses. At High RPM the late opening causes the Ex to loose some of the blow down affect and the piston has to pump the spent ex gasses out. In real bad cases there can be ex gasses trying to go back into the intake runner when the intake valve opens. That really kills power.


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