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pro stock chuck 01-31-2014 01:27 AM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
sorry your info is not accurate
here the deal bob smith made the first gen lifter for the first year or so then schubeck move over to different suppliers (cutting cost) and here came the failures. this is accurate. your welcome

Jim Hanig 01-31-2014 08:38 PM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pro stock chuck (Post 418701)
sorry your info is not accurate
here the deal bob smith made the first gen lifter for the first year or so then schubeck move over to different suppliers (cutting cost) and here came the failures. this is accurate. your welcome

Well I have seen 4or 5 failures last year, sent 1 set back after one failed he check them sent them back 10 later another one failed. I would sell them cheap if your brave enough

Al Reed 09-04-2015 09:39 AM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
We had SM Lifters (not Schubecks), a puck got scared of 9K+ rpms and decided to leave, did a fair bit of damage. This was at a pro's shop being dynoed when it occurred.
Rights springs, right everything, lifter just flat out failed. Cost a bunch to fix it all....

Glenn Briglio 09-04-2015 03:02 PM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Reed (Post 481311)
We had SM Lifters (not Schubecks), a puck got scared of 9K+ rpms and decided to leave, did a fair bit of damage. This was at a pro's shop being dynoed when it occurred.
Rights springs, right everything, lifter just flat out failed. Cost a bunch to fix it all....

Wow 9K+ rpm for a flat tappet cam and lifters. What kind of spring being used for that application. Just want to know that combo.

Dyno 09-04-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
I was at a dyno session with a new 426 max wedge. 5th or 6th pull there was a quick miss in the engine and immediately the engine was shut off. Completely destroyed the new maxie. Needed new pistons and a complete rebuild. A puck had come off one of the new lifters. I would not use them, but many racers have had good luck with them. Good luck to you! Dyno

John Dinkel 09-04-2015 04:45 PM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
Jim, I have been running them for years with no problems. Installed 5 or 6 cams and ran them flat out.

MR DERBY CITY 09-04-2015 06:31 PM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
Schubeck lifters.... Buyers beware, A large number of racers have ran them with NO problems, However if they fail they take a lot of good parts with them . Risk vs. Reward ? .....M.J.

GTX JOHN 09-05-2015 01:36 AM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
We have had a bunch of trouble with them......Smith's too!

I have several near new sets of Smith's Hyd. and the punks can be
removed easily by pulling them out of housing. i am scared to use them.
Can the punks be safely glued back in? I am scared to try....... Smith's
never answers the phone or returns my calls.

Apparently my business means less than nothing to them.....In last 10 to 15 years I have bought no less than 12 sets. they were better when I first started to use them and got them from Schubeck right at his shop in Vegas.
Of nearly a dozen sets........About 4 sets broke!!

Alan Roehrich 09-05-2015 09:55 AM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
We have never hurt a Schubeck without another failure coming first. However, the first and only business dealing I had with Schubeck was very bad. That said, we/I have not run any of Smith's, but a lot of people I know who are extremely well versed in Stock Eliminator engines have lost Smith's lifters, not likely through any fault of anything but the lifter. Had even worse dealings with PPPC. That's the reason I use and sell Trend tool steel lifters now, after nearly 4 years of selling more than two dozen sets as a small low volume dealer, I've not had anyone complain of a failure, and most have bought more than one set.

Greg Reimer 7376 09-07-2015 11:40 AM

Re: Schubeck lifters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 481455)
We have never hurt a Schubeck without another failure coming first. However, the first and only business dealing I had with Schubeck was very bad. That said, we/I have not run any of Smith's, but a lot of people I know who are extremely well versed in Stock Eliminator engines have lost Smith's lifters, not likely through any fault of anything but the lifter. Had even worse dealings with PPPC. That's the reason I use and sell Trend tool steel lifters now, after nearly 4 years of selling more than two dozen sets as a small low volume dealer, I've not had anyone complain of a failure, and most have bought more than one set.

Sounds good to me. I've had no problems with Smiths yet, but the tool steel setup sounds a lot more reliable. Does anything have to be done to the camshaft?I have Bullet steel billet cams in both my motors, nice pieces, but I don't need glass fragments all through the place. Who sells the Trends and are they just a drop in replacement for the Smiths?


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