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Dwight Southerland 11-17-2010 12:06 AM

5.7 Hemi
 
What bellhousing bolt pattern does the 5.7 Hemi use?

Stewart Way 11-17-2010 12:15 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
The new Hemi has the small block engine bolt pattern but the starter is on the pass side. I just got a Quicktime bellhousing but opted for a driver side starter so I might be able to use 340-360 headers with some mods. It fits fine.

X-TECH MAN 11-17-2010 10:13 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 222694)
The new Hemi has the small block engine bolt pattern but the starter is on the pass side. I just got a Quicktime bellhousing but opted for a driver side starter so I might be able to use 340-360 headers with some mods. It fits fine.

Did you know that a late model Ford racer was DQ'ed for having the starter on the wrong side from OEM? Dont remember if it was stock or S/S but thinking it was a S/S Mustang this year. It might be worth looking into to see if its 100% legal to move the starter if your building a stocker or S/S. I believe this happened in Div.1.

Dwight Southerland 11-17-2010 10:39 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
So that means they can use a small block 904 or 727?

Ed Wright 11-17-2010 10:50 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Goin over to the dark side Dwight? lol

Eric Merryfield 11-17-2010 11:39 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 222734)
So that means they can use a small block 904 or 727?

Be a maverick and hang a crashbox 833 behind it....

Yes all the DP motors are SB even the new 450HP viper motor is too, I know my DP came with a viper 6 speed.

Eric

Stewart Way 11-17-2010 12:05 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Dwight
727 or 904. I have been using a gutted 904 for mockup on my SSGT car but I'm going with a Gforce.

Adger Smith 11-17-2010 05:24 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Yep X Tech,
That is the same thing I've been told about my V-6 Super Stocker. Correct side for the starter.
In SS/?X classes you can put the starter anywhere. In SS/DS (modified stock) I've been told the starter has to be locaterd in the origional location. I wouldn't be too quick to move it in Stock or SuperStock. Better be careful that could be a way to leave a race early.

Stewart Way 11-17-2010 09:05 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Guess I Better check with NHRA. Maybe on a GT car I can claim I kept the starter on the original side, or not?

Stewart Way 11-17-2010 09:20 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Did a little checking in my 2009 Drag Pak book and the cars came with a viper trans for the stick and a 904 case for the auto. Since the starter bolts to the trans with a 904, I think the correct side will be the drivers side. The viper is a little tougher to figure out. The photo I have shows the starter to be on the same side as the clutch fork but either the photo is reversed or the fork is on the passanger side. Anyone with a drag pak care to say whichside the starter is on?

Stewart Way 11-17-2010 09:53 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
In section 8 of S and SS it states Aftermarket starters, in stock location, permitted. Guess that would mean for stock starters too. But it would appear that this rule is in every SS class, even the SS/?X classes. At the start of each SS class it says that the rules are the same as the previous SS class with the following exceptions. Since there is no exeception for starter location in SS class or any following class it would require that the starter be in the stock location. .At least thats my read

Peter Ash 11-17-2010 11:54 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 222888)
In section 8 of S and SS it states Aftermarket starters, in stock location, permitted. Guess that would mean for stock starters too. But it would appear that this rule is in every SS class, even the SS/?X classes. At the start of each SS class it says that the rules are the same as the previous SS class with the following exceptions. Since there is no exeception for starter location in SS class or any following class it would require that the starter be in the stock location. .At least thats my read

The Drag Pak cars use a LHS starter with the 727/904.

Adger Smith 11-18-2010 12:05 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Peter, is that the left facing the engine or left in the drivers seat??? :~) HA!
Stewart,
You have a PM.

Peter Ash 11-18-2010 12:26 PM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 222907)
Peter, is that the left facing the engine or left in the drivers seat??? :~) HA!
Stewart,
You have a PM.

It would be the car's left side.

Jeff Teuton 11-19-2010 11:17 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
The starter in the specs for all drag packs is for mounting on the driver side. The 2008 prototypes had this. ATI makes a starter, as does RobbMc (which is the Mopar part #). Bolts up to a 904/727/ or bell housings are available for both sides to service the drag packs and street challengers.

Stewart Way 11-19-2010 11:59 AM

Re: 5.7 Hemi
 
Thanks Jeff. Hope your getting around well. I have asked NHRA to clafify this question and the official I talked to mentioned that he had seen this thread so he will likely see your response as he researches the answer. Initial response was for drivers side but more checking was required. I also asked about Hyd throwout bearing with a biondo button to have the same setup a transbrake car has (for SS). He did not say Hyd was illegal but again he will look into it and get back to me.

Jeff, got an extra intake and TB sitting around for a DP?


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