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SSGN 10-03-2014 11:21 AM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
This debate will go on until the bitter end. The part that is the saddest is NHRA and others think these new cars are bringing new interest and spectators to this sport. However I watched the final in car and looked into the stands and, you guessed it nobody there. No disrespect to the Bartons, great job. Just an observation.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziLLT7lJkps"]Drag Pack David Barton 2014 NHRA Nationals Reading, PA - YouTube[/ame]

Kevin

Mickey Whaley 10-03-2014 11:39 AM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 448327)
It Would Be Easy To Just Lower The Index On FS Cars By Four. Then Qualifing Would Be Closer For The Older Cars. Becuase The Same FS Car In Normal Stock Run's AA Or BB. So At A Normal Race That Same FS Car Would Not Be Hurt With HP. Think About It!!!!

Sammy they should put the 3 tenths back on the index and police everybody then the AHFS will work it self out

Jeff Teuton 10-03-2014 12:29 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
How about lowering the classes by 2 on each old car, hence 3 tenths easier. That is what Larry Hill is doing while everyone on here is blapping their gums.

Mickey Whaley 10-03-2014 04:56 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 448339)
How about lowering the classes by 2 on each old car, hence 3 tenths easier. That is what Larry Hill is doing while everyone on here is blapping their gums.

Why not leave it like it was and then their would not be any blapping this BS was done for the paper cars so the index wouldn't be scared put the 3 tenths back and go

Jeff Teuton 10-03-2014 07:20 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
OK Mickey. The reality is I asked for the FS Indexes to be lowered more last year, but NHRA is moving slowly. I think I suggested 9.90 and 10.20, and this year I will ask for more. I am of the opinion (like me or not, but I'm too old to beat up) of speeding up the older cars (like my 69 Super Bee), and don't slow down the new cars. But then I don't like the AHFS. When it came along, it was better than what we had. And it's application is open to discussion. I think I will start a new thread about that. I haven't gotten anyone really mad lately.

Mickey Whaley 10-05-2014 05:22 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 448401)
OK Mickey. The reality is I asked for the FS Indexes to be lowered more last year, but NHRA is moving slowly. I think I suggested 9.90 and 10.20, and this year I will ask for more. I am of the opinion (like me or not, but I'm too old to beat up) of speeding up the older cars (like my 69 Super Bee), and don't slow down the new cars. But then I don't like the AHFS. When it came along, it was better than what we had. And it's application is open to discussion. I think I will start a new thread about that. I haven't gotten anyone really mad lately.

Thanks mr jeff and happy birthday sorry its late index has nothing to do with what im talking about its just the if I go 120 under and a fs car goes 120 under we get hp and they don't? Im done talking about it . Almost like the white house!

Jeff Teuton 10-06-2014 11:14 AM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
NO doubt that is a big issue. I guess in the sanctioning body's take, that is what it will take to build a new class. As long as the cars are on 9 inch tires, they will be in Stock. And if you are not in FS and are in BB, CC etc, you are AHFS bound. Only in Indy does anyone get knocked out. I really have some ideas that would help, but I don't dare post all of them. I might get ISIS sent to my house. But who knows. With Comp on the ropes and Pro Stock right behind, maybe a new eliminator? How about a Nostalgia/FS. Maybe for Indy? Maybe 8.25 lbs? Maybe (put your number here) index? Food for thought.

Kevin McKenna 10-06-2014 03:30 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 448333)
This debate will go on until the bitter end. The part that is the saddest is NHRA and others think these new cars are bringing new interest and spectators to this sport. However I watched the final in car and looked into the stands and, you guessed it nobody there. No disrespect to the Bartons, great job. Just an observation.

Drag Pack David Barton 2014 NHRA Nationals Reading, PA - YouTube

Kevin

I also have an observation. When I go to the U.S. Nationals on a Thursday and see a full (five man) PR team from Chevrolet Performance, and media/PR members from Dodge and Ford, I know something must be working. I'm not suggesting the program is anything close to perfect but the media room at Indy used to be a ghost town on Thursday. Now, it's quite active and virtually all of that is due to the Factory Stock Showdown.

Bruce Noland 10-06-2014 06:02 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna (Post 448742)
I also have an observation. When I go to the U.S. Nationals on a Thursday and see a full (five man) PR team from Chevrolet Performance, and media/PR members from Dodge and Ford, I know something must be working. I'm not suggesting the program is anything close to perfect but the media room at Indy used to be a ghost town on Thursday. Now, it's quite active and virtually all of that is due to the Factory Stock Showdown.

For nearly six years the media room has produced nothing of value for Stock. Nothing! The media folks (paparazzi) should venture out into the pits for the real story.

Billy Nees 10-06-2014 06:54 PM

Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Kevin, tell the "media folks" they need to read thread http://www.classracer.com/classforum...ad.php?t=49151, get out of the air conditioning, away from the buffet tables and leave the young girls in the media suite alone(they're too young for them anyway). Go out into the depths of the Sportsman Pits and check out reality!
(did I tell him Bruce?)


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