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Mickey Whaley 10-02-2014 04:03 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 448198)
If the old cars dropped two or three classes (10% off), they would rule the roost. Let's get stirred up again. Good for your circulation. Or you can call 1-800-Larry Hill and get the methodology for getting your 10%. Larry is a pro. How come Larry can get 10% off 38 combinations and nobody else can?
Iif if if such a small word but stretched so long larry can do it because he can drive the truck to get beer so everybody can have an opinion and think they are right

Mike Gray 10-02-2014 07:17 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
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Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 448218)
just looked pending tech top 14 cars are 08 or newer all but 4 are FS cars!!!
I have been reading complaints about the new cars on a lot of these threads. I sort of get it but maybe I'm missing something. I'm in the process of building (someday finishing) an older car that fits A, B or C.
Since most of the new cars are out of B and C is my only concern qualifying at the select races with qualified fields were the newer cars get in much easier?
As long as I don't have to go heads up with the much faster newer cars (also certain older cars) I should be alright?

HR9121 10-02-2014 07:38 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 448235)
I have been reading complaints about the new cars on a lot of these threads. I sort of get it but maybe I'm missing something. I'm in the process of building (someday finishing) an older car that fits A, B or C.
Since most of the new cars are out of B and C is my only concern qualifying at the select races with qualified fields were the newer cars get in much easier?
As long as I don't have to go heads up with the much faster newer cars (also certain older cars) I should be alright?
Most are for now but what about the next crop, I see George Yago is running a '14 camaro in C this weekend. The biggest gripe anyone has at the moment is these cars in FS can run it all out at select races without repercussions from AHFS and take all the top qualifying positions like this weekend race. Top 10 are FS cars and one was atleast -1.50 something under the index....where's the justice in that?

farmco r/sa 10-02-2014 07:51 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 448225)
Iif if if such a small word but stretched so long larry can do it because he can drive the truck to get beer so everybody can have an opinion and think they are right
Larry is the master for sure. Look for
the pink car to get some power back
come late fall..........

Mike Gray 10-02-2014 07:53 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
I sold my super-gas car about 6yrs ago and stock is going to be a new experience for me. How many races use a qualified field vs entry quota?
I get it about there being a new crop of underated cars causing havoc but eventually they should get pushed up once there are enough of them.
Mmmm, maybe I should build a truck.

Mike Carr 10-02-2014 08:05 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
All races in S/SS in NHRA are a 128 car qualified field, max. So, other than Indy, everyone who shows gets to run first round.

Kegracing 10-02-2014 09:42 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
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Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 448211)
Until people quit showing up to races with their older cars nothing will be done. What do you think NHRA would do if a national event had only a handful of the new FS cars show up? ONLY THEN would they address the problem with some type of real solution. If people keep complaining at a keyboard, and then pay their entry fees, there isn't a problem in the eyes of NHRA.

Scott
Scott,
I think you missed it here. There are enough new cars out there that NHRA would get all they want at most races anyway! They really don't care about who is there, as long as we don't get in their way. Only a few big money people get any attention from them, and they have new cars when they want them. IF they need a little more filler, like due to the low comp car count, they just add a few more .90 cars. Pretty easy to fill those classes.
No offense to the people with the new cars... if my lottery ticket hits, I will have a COPO shortly! :)
BUT, I do not agree with letting the FS cars qualify on the ladder with NO worry of HP. Because of the bye runs, this is unfair, and no way to defend it... math here, not just heart strings!

Ken
Stock 412

farmco r/sa 10-02-2014 09:48 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 448246)
I sold my super-gas car about 6yrs ago and stock is going to be a new experience for me. How many races use a qualified field vs entry quota?
I get it about there being a new crop of underated cars causing havoc but eventually they should get pushed up once there are enough of them.
Mmmm, maybe I should build a truck.
Many great mopar combo's out there for trucks.
check with wong or nees.

Bruce Noland 10-02-2014 10:53 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 448186)
Its the old race within a race trick. For most of us the trick is getting very old very fast. Now every bye will be taken by a FS car without any application of the AHFS rules, that way the FS cars can do the same thing again in Vegas in a couple of weeks.
At first glance it does look like a race within a race. But the FS Class is not a stand alone event like most race within a race events because it still shares the same ladder with Stockers, without the same consequences.

Word is out that the new cars (2008 and up) will be in their own classes next year. It remains to be seen if nhra will do anything to correct the indexes or possibly put the FS cars in their own eliminator.

Frank Bialas 10-02-2014 11:04 PM
Re: FS cars exempt from HP?
 
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Originally Posted by bruce noland (Post 448276)

word is out that the new cars (2008 and up) will be in their own classes next year. It remains to be seen if nhra will do anything to correct the indexes or possibly put the fs cars in their own eliminator.
bruce, i hate kool aid!!!


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