041 X heads

Greg Reimer 7376 · 12-03-2021, 11:57 AM

An ad elsewhere here shows a pair of 041 X heads for sale. Excuse my ignorance, but what is an 041 X casting? Is it like the 461 X head, where would the X be found? Did it have a different combustion chamber like the 461 X, or is the X located someplace else on the heads? Also, are they legal anywhere a regular 461 head is accepted? Inquiring minds want to know.

Hacksaw · 12-03-2021, 02:13 PM

Never heard of a 041 X head, and I live in Canada.

427FE · 12-03-2021, 02:33 PM

https://www.stevesnovasite.com/threa...d-info.104205/

Cdncarnut · 12-03-2021, 03:20 PM

I saw those heads and was going to jump on them for my Stocker.
But, with the larger valves, they will not work for me.

Cdncarnut · 12-03-2021, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Never heard of a 041 X head, and I live in Canada.

That is because you did not spend years with your nose in Colvin's books before the Internet became the source for all info.

Rich Biebel · 12-03-2021, 04:07 PM

The X was found on a number of different castings including '441's

The '461 X was the most popular head in C/SM when that class was so popular. It did have larger intake runners and since porting wasn't allowed that's the head everyone tired to get.

I've seen other casting numbers with an X in various places but it usually didn't mean anything as far as runner size when we checked them many years ago

I've seen the X on the casting surface in various places and down inside the water jacket with the head facing you chamber side up....

Maybe there are people that know for sure why that was there and if they are any better but I am not one of those folks...

SSDiv6 · 12-03-2021, 04:22 PM

All the original 041X cylinder heads had 1.94" intake and 1.50" exhaust valves and used on the SBC 350/300HP engines.

If there are any 041 or 041X cylinder heads with 2.02" intake and 1.60" exhaust valves, they were modified and they also needed to unshroud the combustion chamber to clear the valves.

SDT1DYI · 12-03-2021, 06:21 PM

I have at set of 1.94 /1.50 unmolested 041X's that I would sell.
I can ship. Located Seattle WA.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620.
360 979 3126.

outlaw · 12-04-2021, 02:27 AM

I was told long ago that sbc castings with a X were for police and taxi. Not sure about that info could never figure why a taxi would need a special head police maybe.
Terry

Adger Smith · 12-04-2021, 03:33 AM

X was put on cores that were used up and out of spec in some manner.
When they ran short on cores they might make a run with cores that were marked X for out of spec. Most X castings were done in core boxes that were out of spec with worn runner molds. That made the runners larger than spec when they were poured. There are some castings that have X's in the lower core box, water jacket passages, and no X up on top with the casting number. Only half of the core was out of spec in those cases. That is the information I got from a person that was supposed to know, a long time ago.
Most X castings I have had come through my shop were anywhere from 3 to 10 CC larger on the runner. Most of the time it was in the bowl area on the short side or by the guide. There were some with funny shaped Ex.

12-03-2021, 11:57 AM	#1
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,111 Likes: 164 Liked 649 Times in 208 Posts	041 X heads An ad elsewhere here shows a pair of 041 X heads for sale. Excuse my ignorance, but what is an 041 X casting? Is it like the 461 X head, where would the X be found? Did it have a different combustion chamber like the 461 X, or is the X located someplace else on the heads? Also, are they legal anywhere a regular 461 head is accepted? Inquiring minds want to know.

12-03-2021, 02:13 PM	#2
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 838 Likes: 148 Liked 276 Times in 151 Posts	Re: 041 X heads Never heard of a 041 X head, and I live in Canada.

12-03-2021, 02:33 PM	#3
427FE Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Monroe Twsp, NJ Posts: 176 Likes: 226 Liked 305 Times in 68 Posts	Re: 041 X heads https://www.stevesnovasite.com/threa...d-info.104205/

12-03-2021, 03:20 PM	#4
Cdncarnut Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 200 Likes: 307 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: 041 X heads I saw those heads and was going to jump on them for my Stocker. But, with the larger valves, they will not work for me. __________________ Thomas NHRA 1959 E/SA

12-03-2021, 04:07 PM	#6
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,275 Likes: 25 Liked 510 Times in 200 Posts	Re: 041 X heads The X was found on a number of different castings including '441's The '461 X was the most popular head in C/SM when that class was so popular. It did have larger intake runners and since porting wasn't allowed that's the head everyone tired to get. I've seen other casting numbers with an X in various places but it usually didn't mean anything as far as runner size when we checked them many years ago I've seen the X on the casting surface in various places and down inside the water jacket with the head facing you chamber side up.... Maybe there are people that know for sure why that was there and if they are any better but I am not one of those folks... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479

12-03-2021, 04:22 PM	#7
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 2,991 Likes: 693 Liked 1,457 Times in 543 Posts	Re: 041 X heads All the original 041X cylinder heads had 1.94" intake and 1.50" exhaust valves and used on the SBC 350/300HP engines. If there are any 041 or 041X cylinder heads with 2.02" intake and 1.60" exhaust valves, they were modified and they also needed to unshroud the combustion chamber to clear the valves.

12-03-2021, 06:21 PM	#8
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 354 Likes: 0 Liked 394 Times in 124 Posts	Re: 041 X heads I have at set of 1.94 /1.50 unmolested 041X's that I would sell. I can ship. Located Seattle WA. Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620. 360 979 3126.

12-04-2021, 02:27 AM	#9
outlaw Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 78 Likes: 52 Liked 58 Times in 33 Posts	Re: 041 X heads I was told long ago that sbc castings with a X were for police and taxi. Not sure about that info could never figure why a taxi would need a special head police maybe. Terry

12-04-2021, 03:33 AM	#10
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,348 Likes: 434 Liked 677 Times in 261 Posts	Re: 041 X heads X was put on cores that were used up and out of spec in some manner. When they ran short on cores they might make a run with cores that were marked X for out of spec. Most X castings were done in core boxes that were out of spec with worn runner molds. That made the runners larger than spec when they were poured. There are some castings that have X's in the lower core box, water jacket passages, and no X up on top with the casting number. Only half of the core was out of spec in those cases. That is the information I got from a person that was supposed to know, a long time ago. Most X castings I have had come through my shop were anywhere from 3 to 10 CC larger on the runner. Most of the time it was in the bowl area on the short side or by the guide. There were some with funny shaped Ex. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 12-04-2021 at 03:36 AM.