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01-15-2020, 06:32 PM | #201 |
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Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
2004
Well, it was the middle of June before I found a final round Pontiac appearance. Peter was RU at the Pontiac Excitement Nats. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop Unless Pontiacs won a lot of smaller races, it was a bad year for Pontiac Super Stockers. So, I'll add 2005 results to this post. Decided to look at a qualifying list. At Phoenix, Ken Shawver was #6 @ - 1.080. And, there were several Pontiacs running below their index. So, the Pontiacs were running OK. But the drivers were not putting together enuff good packages to win a lot of rounds. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop OK, at the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #14 @ - 1.113. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop He made it to the semi, then cut a slow light. But hey, we've all done it. For whatever reason, you just can't cut a great light every single pass. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop At the Sports Nats, Ken Shawver was #10 @ - 1.072. I've said it before. But this has to be one of the best running Pontiac powered SS cars of all time. It consistently qualified well, for a lot of years. Peter Biondo is on the Q-list. Russ Abrams is also listed, with a '91 GT/FA Bird. I think he ran a '73 SD455 Bird. So, does anybody know if this GT Bird was Pontiac powered ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Peter won this race, with a .008 light ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop That's it for 2005. Without the div race results, and results from open races, Stock/SS combo races, and all other races which involved Pontiac SS cars, the race info is very limited. So, again I ask, is there some online source for these race results that I don't know about. The reason I keep asking these questions is because I assume that some of you guys may know of race info sources that I am not aware of. Last edited by oldskool; 01-15-2020 at 06:47 PM. |
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At Phoenix, Keri Angeles ran a 9.76, & Don Kennedy ran a 9.85. Joel Larkin was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Peter won the Gators ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 10.40 & won his SS/JA class. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At Vegas, Keri was #19 @ - 1.047. Don Kennedy was .977 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At this Carquest Nats race, Ken Shawver was #2 @ - 1.098. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop This reminds me of something I've seen in recent years. Nowadays there are LOTS of quick Stockers that can run quick enuff to run under their SS index. And I've seen some Pontiac Stockers do just that. As long as they don't have to make a heads-up run, they can win the SS race, while running in legal Stock form. This is the earliest race I've run across, where a Pontiac Stocker ran SS. Have run across several races from the early 2000's where some events would run either Stock or SS, but not both. So, for those who had Stockers that would run under their SS index, if their was a nearby race they wanted to run, that was running SS, but not Stock, they could simply enter their Stocker, in the SS class. That's exactly what happened at this Sonoma race. Leo Glasbrenner entered his Stock '68 Bird, in SS/JA class. Was #49 @ -.264. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop He actually made it to the 4th round. Was beat by the eventual winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Ken Shawver was #4 @ - 1.095. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop I thought this Q-list was very interesting. They must have had very good air. LOTS of cars were more than a sec under. Sal Piacentini was #23 @ - 1.057. Another interesting entry was Al Vanis, in a '77 Bird. Al had won the US Nats in Stock, in a Pontiac powered Ventura, back in 1974. Also won a nat event at Englishtown in '03, in a '77 Lemans. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Also had some good air at Vegas, Carroll Warling was #9 @ - 1.310. Don Kennedy was #43 @ - 1.160. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop |
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2007
At Englishtown, Sal Piacentini was #21 @ - 1.023. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop He made it to the semi, where he got treed, with a .007. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At Norwalk, Monte Howard drove Ken Shawver's '78 T/A to #24 @ - 1.029. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop Lot's of quick cars at the Mile-High Nats again. Carroll Warling was #7 @ - 1.303. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Monte Howard was #40 @ - 1.068. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop He Made it to the semi, and cut a great .004 light, but went too quick. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Torco Nats, Sal Piacentini was #13 @ - 1.053. And looks like Peter was back in the Hatari Bird with a #14 @ - 1.050. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Carroll Warling was #10 @ - 1.267. Don Kennedy was #42 @ - 1.130. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop Several quick Pontiacs, but no race winners. |
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At Pomona, Don Kennedy was #18 @ - 1.051. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #16 @ - 1.105. Keri Angeles, Joel Larkin, & Art Peterson were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Spring Nats, Johnny Duncan was #53 @ -.860. Since somebody said he always ran a Pontiac engine, I assume this '95 Bird had one. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Jeremy Duncan was #19 @ -.919, in a 4th gen Bird. So, since he is from the same home town, can I assume that Jeremy is Johnny's son, & therefore the car was Pontiac powered ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At Englishtown, Sal Piacentini was #21 @ - 1.055. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At Norwalk, Monte Howard was #17 @ -.934. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop Wow ! At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #2 @ - 1.437. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Toyo Nats, Sal P. was #26 @ - 1.018. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Carolina Nats, Sal P. was #16 @ - 1.012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Carroll was #6 @ - 1.362. Keri was #54 @ -1.068. Don K. was #68 @ -.996. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Keri was #30 @ -.976. Stacy McCarty was #36 @ -.926. I tried to find a pic of Sal's car to post. The only one I found was on a site that won't let you download their pics. But, it appeared to be a '77 Gold Formula. I ASSUME it is the same car that Mike Morgan has now, which has 350 Pontiac power. Last edited by oldskool; 01-16-2020 at 04:49 PM. |
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Just a little trivia phil monteith was one of the first racers to deep stage back in the sixties early 70's in his 69 ra4 firebird
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Phil's 1st car was a new 63 4cyl tempest followed by a 65 gto tripower automatic convertible
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I think I read that Nunzi has a '63 Tempest, with one of those in it, which has run 11.70. Engine supposedly has all factory parts. Here's a short article about Nunzi. I have no idea if any of the stuff mentioned is true, or not. Maybe others here know. http://www.nunzipontiac.com/about.html http://www.nunzipontiac.com/videos.html Last edited by oldskool; 01-16-2020 at 11:35 PM. |
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2009
At the Cajun Sports Nats, John & J.B. Clegg got their '74 Bird running a bit better. It was #33 @ - 1.067. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At Fontana, Ryan Schloe was #24 @ -.852. The reason I mention this is because I have him listed driving an early 2nd gen in Stock, in other years. And, we all know that some guys/families switch their cars from Stock to SS. And, some use the same car, but put on different body parts, so it'll pass as a different year model. Then, most Pontiacs get passed around from one Pontiac racer to the next. With all this in mind, who knows the story on this particular Bird, which is listed as a SS/IA '71 Formula. It's running quicker than his Stocker. So, is it the same body he was running ? Did he switch over to the 455HO engine ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop I'll just take time here to ask about SS tires & suspension. We all know that there are currently lots of Stockers running quicker than 10.00, with legal 9" tires. So, obviously, many SS cars that run slower than 10.00, can get by with 9" tires. And, if they're the GM leaf spring F-body cars, they can get by with the CalTrac bars, rather than going to narrowed rears, tubs, big tires, & some sort of ladder bar or 4-link set-up. But, I still see some 10 sec SS Pontiacs running big tires. Since the low 10 sec Stockers hook up enuff to do huge wheelies, and some need wheelie bars on the back, why do guys still feel the need to run huge tires ? Wouldn't the cars actually run slightly quicker, using the 9" tires ? Sorry for the dummy question. But hey, if you don't know something, you just don't know. At the Midwest Nats, Bill Rink was #12 @ - 1.010. I suppose Bill has the quickest '74 GTO straight SS car ever, by far. I think he has posted that he switched the car over from Stock, because NHRA had added so much hp to it. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Thunder Valley Nats, Johnny Duncan & Peter Biondo are near the bottom of the list. I assume the 2000 Bird Peter was driving is the Hatari car, with a 428 engine. Does anybody know when the Hatari was switched over from the 400, to the 428 ? Has it ever had a 455 in it ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Summer Nats, Carroll Warling was #3 @ - 1.163. Billy Ingels was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Bill Rink was #19 @ - 1.068. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At Englishtown, Sal P. was #19 @ -.949. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #3 @ - 1.347, with his '74 GA. Not only was this car a nat record holder, I suppose it was one of the quickest Pontiacs ever, against it's index. Don't know what a list of the top 10 or 20 Pontiacs would look like, if listed by the numbers they ran, in competition, against their index. I suppose there were a few which did, or at least COULD have run more than 1.5 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Toyo Nats, Vic Santos was #33 @ -.883. Sal P. was #37 @ -.867. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Fall Nats, J.B. Clegg was #35 @ -.895. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #30 @ - 1.064. Bill Eadelis was #89. There ain't very many SS GTO's left. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Ryan Schloe was #47 @ -.740. Joel Larkin was next, at #48 @ -.733. Art Peterson was also on the list, with his '69 GTO. As far as I know, it is the only '69 GTO I know of that has been in active competition, in recent years. I know of a couple of '68's that ran Stock. Hey, back in the day, there were lot's of '69's in action, especially Judge models. But, it's all just part of Pontiac history, now. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 01-16-2020 at 11:46 PM. |
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Hatari won all world championships with 400. Steel headed 428 2009
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