How Many Wallys?

Dick Butler · 11-01-2015, 10:57 AM

When ever I discuss Heads up Class racing there are lots of "boos" from the crowd on this site. Maybe I just discovered why it happens. It has been 19 Years since I won Class at indy in GT/AA.
1) Many races have occurred, many races having no real "Class" heads up racing.
2)Many years of limited entries to events causing essentially no possibility of Heads up racing even in eliminator.
3) Winning a Wally for being fastest in class becomes less and less important. No major money to win class. Sponsor money for products due to so many classes to pay.
4)Every year many thousands of new combinations arrive with less and less HP oversight when they first are raced. Result Instant Super Combination. Buy one or be second best in class or become encouraged to only support the dial in racing where your excellent car for last season has a way to win by racing someone other than class.
5) People still understand the concept of being a closely factored class as seen with the excitement over the many A/SA cars closely qualified at Vegas.
6) Using the factoring and lb/hp always has been a form of crutch to take advantage in Stk and SS. Only the mod classes are level in class. The no tear down is slowly making them more popular but costs still are high.
7)Change of mental programming is hard to accomplish when we have a car, trailer, MH and vacation time planned. The organization has its own reasons for diluting the numbers of racers per class by offering more classes. Entry money available by full fields.
Question might be asked of the negative people as to "How many Wallys have you earned by beating a 7 or 8 car class of cars. Without that history it is easy to see the negative responses to Heads Up class racing. Us Old guys lived to beat someone for class trophy, NHRA money, Sponsor money for all our products and decals for class win.
Many times when class is run very minimal rewards are there to be earned...

Thanks for reading...

Jim Wahl · 11-01-2015, 03:23 PM

I have 12 Wally's for class wins. However I have never had 8 cars in my class. The most was 6 and without going back to the log books I would say usually 3 or 4 cars. Twice there were only me and one other and twice I was the only car. That's off the top of my head. Jim

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Dick Butler · 11-01-2015, 06:42 PM

Thanks Jim. My question was intended to be a rhetorical one. This to those who BOO the theory of a Heads up Mod Class where cost is lower and playing field level. I wonder if they understand why a Class Win could be so important and especially when all the cars are not subject to bogus variations in HP but rather the same lb/cu in.

11-01-2015, 10:57 AM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,197 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	How Many Wallys? When ever I discuss Heads up Class racing there are lots of "boos" from the crowd on this site. Maybe I just discovered why it happens. It has been 19 Years since I won Class at indy in GT/AA. 1) Many races have occurred, many races having no real "Class" heads up racing. 2)Many years of limited entries to events causing essentially no possibility of Heads up racing even in eliminator. 3) Winning a Wally for being fastest in class becomes less and less important. No major money to win class. Sponsor money for products due to so many classes to pay. 4)Every year many thousands of new combinations arrive with less and less HP oversight when they first are raced. Result Instant Super Combination. Buy one or be second best in class or become encouraged to only support the dial in racing where your excellent car for last season has a way to win by racing someone other than class. 5) People still understand the concept of being a closely factored class as seen with the excitement over the many A/SA cars closely qualified at Vegas. 6) Using the factoring and lb/hp always has been a form of crutch to take advantage in Stk and SS. Only the mod classes are level in class. The no tear down is slowly making them more popular but costs still are high. 7)Change of mental programming is hard to accomplish when we have a car, trailer, MH and vacation time planned. The organization has its own reasons for diluting the numbers of racers per class by offering more classes. Entry money available by full fields. Question might be asked of the negative people as to "How many Wallys have you earned by beating a 7 or 8 car class of cars. Without that history it is easy to see the negative responses to Heads Up class racing. Us Old guys lived to beat someone for class trophy, NHRA money, Sponsor money for all our products and decals for class win. Many times when class is run very minimal rewards are there to be earned... Thanks for reading... Last edited by Dick Butler; 11-01-2015 at 06:36 PM.

11-01-2015, 03:23 PM	#2
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 626 Liked 672 Times in 121 Posts	Re: How Many Wallys? I have 12 Wally's for class wins. However I have never had 8 cars in my class. The most was 6 and without going back to the log books I would say usually 3 or 4 cars. Twice there were only me and one other and twice I was the only car. That's off the top of my head. Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. SSSSA Forum Moderator

11-01-2015, 06:42 PM	#3
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,197 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: How Many Wallys? Thanks Jim. My question was intended to be a rhetorical one. This to those who BOO the theory of a Heads up Mod Class where cost is lower and playing field level. I wonder if they understand why a Class Win could be so important and especially when all the cars are not subject to bogus variations in HP but rather the same lb/cu in.