Eliminations questions

[Dragrac419]

Ok still new to stock racing and have a questions.
Competitor A goes red
Competitor B breaks after leaving the line and is pushed back and goes to their pit spot and does not cross the scales.
Is ompetitor B still a winner?
Competitor A did cross the scales just to be safe since they did not see the other car come down the track

[Lee Valentine]

I believe the race is over once A red lights.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine

I believe the race is over once A red lights.

If B staged with a light car, B was worst AND first.

[joe collins]

Originally Posted by Dragrac419

Ok still new to stock racing and have a questions.
Competitor A goes red
Competitor B breaks after leaving the line and is pushed back and goes to their pit spot and does not cross the scales.
Is ompetitor B still a winner?
Competitor A did cross the scales just to be safe since they did not see the other car come down the track

This happen at Rockingham Competitor A was put back in

[Dragrac419]

Originally Posted by joe collins

This happen at Rockingham Competitor A was put back in

Yes but only after competitor B agreed to let that person back in. I wanted to see what others thought as I was under the impression that competitor B would be DQ'd for not scaling. Still learning so appreciate all the reply's

Greg Rowe was good sport about it as he could not fix his car before the next round and let Terri back in.

[TCHilton]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

If B staged with a light car, B was worst AND first.

This is correct. When a competitor wins a round, they are required to go through fuel check and scale even if not making the full pass. Same goes for racers on a single who take the tree and back out--still required to go through fuel and scales.

For the record, though, the Race Director has the ability to override this need in extreme situations.

[joe collins]

Originally Posted by TCHilton

This is correct. When a competitor wins a round, they are required to go through fuel check and scale even if not making the full pass. Same goes for racers on a single who take the tree and back out--still required to go through fuel and scales.

For the record, though, the Race Director has the ability to override this need in extreme situations.

Can the broke car be towed to the scales and fuel check

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by joe collins

Can the broke car be towed to the scales and fuel check

I did.
Jim Caughlin
SS6019

[TCHilton]

Originally Posted by joe collins

Can the broke car be towed to the scales and fuel check

This is a grey area to me, and results/opinions will likely vary. Per the 2020 NHRA Rulebook, both Stock (11A) and Super Stock (12A) prohibit the use of Tow Vehicles. Therefore the easy answer would be 'no'.

Example where it gets really grey: potential heads up final. Say an A/SA car wins semis to go into final and another A/SA car has the bye. What's stopping the second A/SA car from taking the tree, claiming broke, then getting towed and saving engine/tranny heat from taking a beating before a quick turnaround final round? Can't tell the racer they have to drive to tech if they claim no oil pressure, so it has to be towed. Do you then DQ the racer for towing? Can't DQ everybody who breaks on the line, that isn't fair play. Now what if that buddy who's towing the broke car throws ice bags on the intake before towing, is that fair? Ice yes towing no, where's the line, insert rabbit hole...

All in all, it's about situational awareness. I personally feel myself having been a racer for a number of years helps me see through potential gamesmanship like this. Now, again, innocent until proven guilty. My opinion, when available, is that broke cars must be pushed/towed by official means (whether it track official or sanctioning body) to be as fair as possible in the situation.

Hope I answered your question at some point through this mess...

Travis

[mfracing]

Depends what division you are in.