Ford HELP....

Freddie · 04-26-2007, 08:29 PM

I am finishing our new car and am going to try to run the Stock 302 I already have.. I have already changed it to a carb setup, using a Parker Funnel Intake with a 650 double pumper... I also have a X303 cam for it... I will be using a MSD distributor, and 6AL ign. box... it will be mated to a P&A full Man. C-4 no brake with a 3200 TCI conv... the car has been tatefully lightened, doors gutted, QA1 tubular front end with thier Coil overs.. on the rear I have Soutside Lift Bars, and Dbl Adj Uppers... stock 8.8 with a 3.73 posi and M/T street slicks.. 26x10's...the car has had a full cage added to it, but anything not needed inside the car was removed.. all the harness, heater/ac box, guage cluster everythng..

I am trying to get this car to run high 11's I know I will need some more power.. thinking about a 125 shot of N2O..

do you guys think I can get there? or do I still need more engine???

This is being built to bracket race.. but since you guys are limited so much in the engine area I thought I would post here for some help..

Thanks

Freddie

Stephen J · 04-26-2007, 10:43 PM

you should be in the 11s easily with the 125 shot. I hope you got some good pistons though. my daily driven 302 ran 11.50s on motor, but now runs 10.90s

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greg fulk · 04-27-2007, 02:07 AM

I like to see more carb & converter but....stephen would know better then I. the NOS is a big help to the combo. looks like more like a 12.40 car to though?

novamoation

Stephen J · 04-27-2007, 03:36 AM

Are you using the stock heads(E7TE). If so you better junk them because those heads with a funnel web intake is goin to kill it.

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Freddie · 04-27-2007, 06:41 AM

for now yes they are stock e-7 heads... I am planning on getting a set of Aluminum heads but have to wait for the budget to allow it...

would I be better off leaving the Performer intake on it till I switch heads?

Stephen J · 04-27-2007, 11:51 AM

yes, you could use the performer or better yet the weiand stealth or air gap intakes are the best dual planes for a carb. You said you were goin to use the stock heads..... you will only get low to mid 12s on that 125 shot. Get a good set of alum heads, and you will be where your goal is.

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Horace Johnson #2167
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Freddie · 04-30-2007, 09:14 PM

thanks.. I have been looking for a set of older 351 W heads they had a little bigger valves, and bigger ports.. flow better than the GT40 heads.. if not I will wait till I get the Aluminum heads..

Chris1529 · 05-01-2007, 11:25 AM

what year is this car? An older GT (83-86) or LX (87-97) may run high 11's where as a GT (87-93) (94-95) are heavier cars that may only go mid 12's. There is about a 400 lb difference among some of these cars.

Freddie · 05-01-2007, 12:29 PM

the car is a 89 GT.. but has been put on a major diet... anything not needed to hold something down has been removed... the doors have been gutted and the windows pinned up in them then the interior put back over ... everything behind the dash is now gone... along with the stock front end in favor of a QA1 setup..

I figure I am about 450# lighter than when I started...

would love to get in the high 11's on the stock engine , without needing to go with a trans brake...

gto whippet · 05-01-2007, 04:23 PM

freddie e mail me i have a set of 1970 351 widsors bdahms@ipns.com 503 635 1310

04-26-2007, 08:29 PM	#1
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Ford HELP.... I am finishing our new car and am going to try to run the Stock 302 I already have.. I have already changed it to a carb setup, using a Parker Funnel Intake with a 650 double pumper... I also have a X303 cam for it... I will be using a MSD distributor, and 6AL ign. box... it will be mated to a P&A full Man. C-4 no brake with a 3200 TCI conv... the car has been tatefully lightened, doors gutted, QA1 tubular front end with thier Coil overs.. on the rear I have Soutside Lift Bars, and Dbl Adj Uppers... stock 8.8 with a 3.73 posi and M/T street slicks.. 26x10's...the car has had a full cage added to it, but anything not needed inside the car was removed.. all the harness, heater/ac box, guage cluster everythng.. I am trying to get this car to run high 11's I know I will need some more power.. thinking about a 125 shot of N2O.. do you guys think I can get there? or do I still need more engine??? This is being built to bracket race.. but since you guys are limited so much in the engine area I thought I would post here for some help.. Thanks Freddie __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

04-27-2007, 02:07 AM	#3
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I like to see more carb & converter but....stephen would know better then I. the NOS is a big help to the combo. looks like more like a 12.40 car to though? novamoation __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

04-27-2007, 06:41 AM	#5
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	for now yes they are stock e-7 heads... I am planning on getting a set of Aluminum heads but have to wait for the budget to allow it... would I be better off leaving the Performer intake on it till I switch heads? __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

04-30-2007, 09:14 PM	#7
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	thanks.. I have been looking for a set of older 351 W heads they had a little bigger valves, and bigger ports.. flow better than the GT40 heads.. if not I will wait till I get the Aluminum heads.. __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

05-01-2007, 11:25 AM	#8
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,367 Likes: 6 Liked 57 Times in 27 Posts	what year is this car? An older GT (83-86) or LX (87-97) may run high 11's where as a GT (87-93) (94-95) are heavier cars that may only go mid 12's. There is about a 400 lb difference among some of these cars. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

04-26-2007, 10:43 PM	#2
Stephen J Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Gadsden Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you should be in the 11s easily with the 125 shot. I hope you got some good pistons though. my daily driven 302 ran 11.50s on motor, but now runs 10.90s Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA Stephen 2162 Horace2167

04-27-2007, 03:36 AM	#4
Stephen J Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Gadsden Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are you using the stock heads(E7TE). If so you better junk them because those heads with a funnel web intake is goin to kill it. Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA Ex-Jim Van Cleve Stephen 2162 Horace2167

04-27-2007, 11:51 AM	#6
Stephen J Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Gadsden Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes, you could use the performer or better yet the weiand stealth or air gap intakes are the best dual planes for a carb. You said you were goin to use the stock heads..... you will only get low to mid 12s on that 125 shot. Get a good set of alum heads, and you will be where your goal is. Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA Stephen 2162 Horace2167

05-01-2007, 12:29 PM	#9
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	the car is a 89 GT.. but has been put on a major diet... anything not needed to hold something down has been removed... the doors have been gutted and the windows pinned up in them then the interior put back over ... everything behind the dash is now gone... along with the stock front end in favor of a QA1 setup.. I figure I am about 450# lighter than when I started... would love to get in the high 11's on the stock engine , without needing to go with a trans brake... __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

05-01-2007, 04:23 PM	#10
gto whippet Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	freddie e mail me i have a set of 1970 351 widsors bdahms@ipns.com 503 635 1310