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Old 11-24-2020, 12:24 PM   #61
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Billy, did you remove all of the engine and transmission torque management?
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Old 11-24-2020, 06:14 PM   #62
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I saw the settings for torque management under traction control, but this car doesn't have traction control, so I didn't play with it. I am not sure where to find it but this car takes all of the timing out during shifts. It may be a part of the transmission torque management settings.
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Old 11-24-2020, 10:42 PM   #63
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Guys, You need to get that timing /shift deal out of there.
My S10 has that crap. I tried bracket racing it. It would swing 2 tenths!! every few runs.
I tried "fooling" the coolant and air temp. but it didn't help. :-(
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I saw the settings for torque management under traction control, but this car doesn't have traction control, so I didn't play with it. I am not sure where to find it but this car takes all of the timing out during shifts. It may be a part of the transmission torque management settings.
Look under the transmission settings for the trans. torque management. I'm not real familiar with the tables for that computer. Post pics of the tables here so we can see or another good resource would be the HPtuners forum. Zeroing out TM will help for sure.
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I would post pictures of the graphs, but I don't have access to the software as it is currently only installed on Billy's laptop.
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Torque management may look something like this... and "torque reduction vs torque vs shift" zero out this table. Also make sure your hi and lo octane timing tables match.

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I'll have to look into it better, but I did not see a torque reduction table for the shifts as you show here. Last week at Island I dealt with the octane tables having to match, but also had to play with the minimum spark advance table to effectively "lock out" the timing to a total of 29 degrees. This, however is all taken out during the shifts and takes a considerable amount of time to come back in.
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Does the timing go to zero momentarily, when you mat it?
Some of them have that little trick, too.
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Does the timing go to zero momentarily, when you mat it?
Some of them have that little trick, too.
It's like a scavenger hunt finding all the nannys. There might be multiple tables throughout controlling the same thing and one may over ride the other. Another thing is to put some good fuel in it and log knock retard, if you see any it's probably false. Start de-sensitizing the knock sensors until it stops pulling timing for no reason.
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Old 11-26-2020, 01:41 AM   #70
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I'll be honest. I'm a V8, RWD guy. But what you guys are doing here is what Stock is all about!
Now, about that tire spin, what can be done to eliminate it? FWD is counter-intuitive.
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