Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of Politics....

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

They were working on making the entire country Right to Work. Trump had ask for a NATIONAL Right to Work bill, which is a death spiral for any type of labor organizations

What has Biden done? Watch the video, and keep in mind he's been on the side of labor his entire career. As far as I'm concerned, this is 100 percent better than the direction the last guy was pulling us.

Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

He has become a billionaire after a lifetime of "pubic service" (public service definded as the public serving politicians) on a government "employee" pay scale.

He is the Warren Buffett investing (must be a savvy investor because he has never produced so much as a "as seen on TV" widget) mini-me of the District of Corruption.

Hey Paul and the rest of you "realists" on here, can somebody explain this to me?

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

Good question Billy, Jeff is a union boss.

I moved into the engineering and commissioning side of the industries, not represented by the union. I have fired a lot of people that think just because they have that card in there pocket they are untouchable, and by firing them I was able to keep good hard working members employed..



Randy.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Good question Billy, Jeff is a union boss.Randy.

Oops, no personal offense Jeff but still a legitimate question.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Come on Mark. I thought we had a deal? We realists are outnumbered here, ya boyz don't require backup.
I'm just as pis sed as you guys about the election mess. We just look at it differently.

btw, the point of the video is...Stop whining about the election and try harder next time.


pS

Paul, I honestly didn't get it. I don't know who those people are, or where they come from . "Wambu.... ?? Still don't see the humor.
Cheers

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know Jeff, in case you couldn't tell, I've always been one of those guys who can fight his own battles. I've never had the need to have a corrupt union stick up for me so yeah I'm OK with Trump. I've always been able to count on my talent and work ethic to get by on my own. How much money (your money) do you think that your union bosses have taken for themselves and given to corrupt politicians over the years?

Billy,
I just retired from being the union president (of the plant I'll post.). And I can tell ya, I was not corrupt. We just wanted a fair shake. In 2004, when our previous 3 year contract expired, we were expecting smooth sailing on our future contract. Our company had been spending money hand over foot. They had purchased a cookie company, a cracker company, a ketchup company, a mayonnaise company, and a nut company. Instead of treating us with respect, after all, we helped them buy all that stuff, we were told the company could no longer afford our pension. The trend was to do away with them, and they were going to follow corporate trends. We told them to shove it, and went on a month long strike. Interestingly enough, while we were out on the picket lines freezing our butts off in Ohio's winter, we noticed the Wall Street Journal articles announcing they had just purchased Pantry Chef a few days before, and had paid 500 million cash for it. I'm retired now, because of the bargaining that was done during that strike. We kept our pension and made improvements. Sometimes, you have to stand up, not just quit, which if we were non union, would have happened.
As far a where the money goes, all of our union paying members moneys was split between the International, and our own in house kitty. The International supplied the training for our stewards, and officers, and lawyers for our arbitration cases. (We never lost one BTW.) They also sent a rep to be at every one of our monthly union meetings to answer any questions and to hear the heartbeat and concerns of the local. Our local's moneys paid for all office supplies for our office, printers, laptops ect. and arbitrations, which cost around 5 grand now. I was required to put a monthly meeting on, every month, for the entire 10 years I was president. There were 3 meetings, one at 6am, one at 2 pm and one at 4 pm so all members had a chance to attend.

[Mark Yacavone]

This is for my friend Jeff.

Anybody that doesn't get it...I'll explain LOL

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

REALITY is Paul that 75 million people have been dis-enfranchised and that is going to be a major issue in what the future will hold for this country. Knowing the time and Federal monies that were spent on a 2 1/2 year Hoax by the leaders of your party to bring down a LEGITIMATELY elected President, the LEAST that I expect is a Congressional investigation into the half-a-dozen States in question. In my own personal experience, my Democratic Governor supported by Democratic Lawyers in front of Democratic appointed Judges determined "nothing wrong". This after all of the tall-tales and lies told by these same Democrats over the last 4 years.

IMO, most of the disenfranchised voters are that because Trump stated in 2018 and after, over and over again that if he lost the 2020 presidential election it was because the other side cheated and if they are Trump slurpers, they swallowed it. Shame on him. Trying to use the impeachment is changing the subject. Sorry Billy, ain't workin here.The 2020 presidential election results in Pennsylvania have been litigated, counted and certified. If you can't handle it, that's on you. Not the U.S.congress and V.P. Pence.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

You can't agree with a "17 second grainy, most likely altered video" of your man that should have been IMMEDIATELY investigated but you go on to believe the CNN clips and fraudulent comments of "(Law and Order) citizens disrupting the process and killing a cop (nice touch)".

Ya got me here Billy. I have no friggin idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The thread that you referred to IMHO was getting out of control and I didn't want to be associated with where it appeared to be going. The last I looked, that is still MY choice and not yours.

It is indeed your choice to stop posting on a thread. However instead, you chose to ask the site owner to lock the thread and announced you were done. Why would you do that?

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

My "snarky comment" (I prefer sarcastic remark but still ironic given the subject) was just that. It wasn't "just a start and you know it". I do find more irony in your comment though. Was it said to try and make me look bad based on your presumed assumptions? Was it said to attempt to ruin me on this site? Ya know, the Democrats have spent the last 4 years trying to ruin some very good men based on their presumed assumptions.

No and no, wtf are you talking about? It is a start of more to come and you do know it. Also more of trying to changing the subject. Most people ruin their own lives. They don't need politicians to do it for them.


Aw man. Now I have a headache after all this copy and pasting.


Nice chatting with you.


pS

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Paul, I honestly didn't get it. I don't know who those people are, or where they come from . "Wambu.... ?? Still don't see the humor.
Cheers

You're right Mark. If it has to be explained then the point was missed.
It wasn't that funny anyways.


Regards,


pS

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Jeff, I am a card carrying union member 45 years, my local serves the Oil and Gas industry, Mining, coal power, and military. Why would the Rank and File support a party that wants to shut all of these entities down. I know how the Union bosses vote they will sell there Freedom and Liberty for a good contract. Labor is a moot point when the jobs are shipped to China. Or the gates are opened and we are flooded with a 3rd world uneducated labor force.

Randy Wells

Great post.

Unions no longer have control over their people. Millions of members support Trump for good reason.

Trump has taken labor from the democrats who did nothing but trample on them for decades outsourcing their jobs, importing illegals by the millions, ruining industry and taking away trade schools.

What did they call members when they began supporting Trump? Deplorables, white supremacists and whatever terrible name they could come up with. Funny how they were great people and the salt of the earth before 2015.

The democrats have done the same thing to black people who are leaving the party in droves. They call them every terrible name in the book. It's despicable.

To say that China Joe supports labor is a bad joke.

I love how Union people say that Joe supports labor. He certainly does. He supports China where slave labor is pretty much the only labor they have. So much for looking out for their brothers.