HOME FORUM RULES SPONSORS CONTACT
     
   
   
Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-16-2021, 12:06 PM   #91
cs racing
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

If they really want to save on emissions and fuel consumption, close all Drive up windows and make people walk inside the restaurant to get food. Including “Starbucks “ thousands of cars set and idle all day at these drive up restaurants. I guess that would make to much sense. The ban is on All small engines, golf carts, pumps for irrigation, scooters, small equipment that contractors use, you name it we will all be effected by it.
cs racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 12:14 PM   #92
cs racing
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy55 View Post
California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment there's nothing listed about generators.
The New law does include Generators (All off-road gas powered engines “Including Generators” it pretty well cover any thing that has a small engine!
cs racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 12:39 PM   #93
FireSale
VIP Member
 
FireSale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lakewood Washington
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 25
Liked 207 Times in 113 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy55 View Post
California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment there's nothing listed about generators.

AB 1346 applies to all Small Off Road Engines (SORE) which are defined as less than 25HP. Includes generators and chainsaws. Exceptions are allowed for applications that are not technically feasible. Yes, you can spend $5,000 on a Yeti Goal Zero, but all you really get is a lithium battery with 2000w from 2 120v outlets. My little dual fuel Champion has 2400 in output and cost me $700. Don't even ask about the chainsaw. I have a Stihl gas saw and my wife has a corded off brand. I will never use the Great White Shark of power tools with an extension cord. Bad idea. We were without power for two weeks after the Clinton Inaugural Day Windstorm. Power from a big *** generator and heat from firewood I cut with a gas saw. 'nuf said. Washington State has mild Winters but when the wind comes down from Alaska, I check my gas supply.
Politicians should be given the Quest of Tom Brown Jr. that is based on Southwest Native American Tracker traditions. Spend 4 seasons in the woods starting out with nothing but a knife. That's nothing as in nothing.


EDIT: I believe that more gas is burned going to church on Sunday than all of NASCAR. No more comments from me...
__________________
Dale Shearon
68 Mustang 6394

Last edited by FireSale; 10-16-2021 at 12:44 PM.
FireSale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 05:29 PM   #94
Chevy55
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 215
Likes: 373
Liked 103 Times in 49 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cs racing View Post
The New law does include Generators (All off-road gas powered engines “Including Generators” it pretty well cover any thing that has a small engine!
Best I can verify is that it's an assumption that generators will be included in the small engine ban.

It makes absolutely no sense banning generators from safety standpoint like when public power goes out or you need power in a remote location. No sense at all!
Chevy55 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 06:49 PM   #95
Tom Meyer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Pierce NE
Posts: 770
Likes: 21
Liked 138 Times in 43 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

The law make no sense, what about fire fighters , emergency workers, it is will tie the hands of the people that are there to help. Tom
__________________
Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ???
Tom Meyer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 10:48 PM   #96
GTS340
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Las Vegas, Nv
Posts: 423
Likes: 61
Liked 504 Times in 162 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Shipping giant Maersk announced plans for a green methanol-powered vessel by 2023. But there isn't enough of the fuel to go around.
GTS340 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2021, 09:59 AM   #97
SSGN
Senior Member
 
SSGN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 601
Likes: 70
Liked 104 Times in 36 Posts
Lightbulb Re: Did this just happen no generators?

They just put a stop to gliders in big rigs and owner operators. Looks like nobody wants to haul freight out of Cali. I drive truck and we avoid it like the plague. Careful what they wish for. No trucking company will invest in a new modern fleet at the rates today. Soooooo Cali might just screw themselves. I think if you want your freedom you need to move from Cali.
__________________
The more people I meet the more I like my dog

Kevin
SSGN is offline   Reply With Quote
Liked
Old 10-17-2021, 10:27 AM   #98
Rory McNeil
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 58
Liked 371 Times in 121 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy55 View Post
Best I can verify is that it's an assumption that generators will be included in the small engine ban.

It makes absolutely no sense banning generators from safety standpoint like when public power goes out or you need power in a remote location. No sense at all!
Considering California`s history of rolling blackouts in the past, I can imagine that having everybody plugging in all the electric cars they want people to be driving, plus all the smaller batteries for all the electric crap they expect to replace small gas engines with, California will be looking to Gilligan and The Professors pedal powered, coconut battery power generator to pick up the slack!
__________________
NHRA 6390 STK
M/S 85 Mustang
Rory McNeil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2021, 04:36 PM   #99
Barry Polley
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Benicia, Ca.
Posts: 450
Likes: 34
Liked 124 Times in 55 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Newsome cannot ban gas generators. He can phase out future sales.. What happens in remote areas or local with medical issues that rely on them ? The grid will fail again or is shut down due to wind. It becomes a s a f e t y issue and I see lawsuits stacking up.
__________________
Barry Polley 758 A/SA
Barry Polley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2021, 08:03 PM   #100
FireSale
VIP Member
 
FireSale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lakewood Washington
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 25
Liked 207 Times in 113 Posts
Default Re: Did this just happen no generators?

Here's the quote from the legislation.
"SEC. 2.Section 43018.11 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read:
43018.11.(a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the state board. Those regulations shall apply to engines produced on or after January 1, 2024, or as soon as the state board determines is feasible, whichever is later."
Nothing solid until 2024 and that's new production model engines only. The "Consistent with federal law...cost effective and technologically feasible" parts may be difficult for these folks to manage in 8 months time.


EDIT: California needs to address it's ability to safely produce and distribute power to the public before passing dumb legislation telling people to use more rechargeable alternatives to gas engines for outdoor work. They have a power grid that is so compromised it is responsible for several of the larger wildfires over the past few years. PG&E has cut service during fire season to prevent fires. But then it's cheaper for Politicians to squeeze owners and manufacturers than invest in the future of the State of California.
When I finished college in the '70s in Ohio I wanted to teach in California, but you had to live in the state for several years to work in the school system so I wound up here in Washington State. Lucky me.
__________________
Dale Shearon
68 Mustang 6394

Last edited by FireSale; 10-17-2021 at 08:20 PM.
FireSale is offline   Reply With Quote
Liked
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.