how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? - Page 2

Tom Goldman · 03-07-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hadtobethere

...yup and then you waited for the Nat'l digger every week to see if your record took a hit, so you could find a 4 door/convertible/wagon or some other body to throw your stuff into to change to a better class......oh, how I remember

I can remember one of the local hitters used to have a pair of oversize swing sets behind his Sunoco station he used to change bodies on the '56 Chevy combo he ran. ...Just lifted off one body, and swapped out to another! ....Tom

DK FRAZIER · 03-07-2010, 10:07 PM

Tom,

What engine are you running in the American ?????

63corvette · 03-07-2010, 10:31 PM

I ran stock at Amarillo TX Dragway in the 60's. B/S and C/S and flat towed it with a tow bar and free wheel spindles on the rear hubs.
There they weighed you as you entered the race and tech was done there at the scales at the same time. No weight after that. We always weighed with the tool box in the trunk and the spare tires and a few shot bags to make weight. Of course those all came out when we hit the pits. I guess we were one of the cheaters but so was everyone else around the pits. That is where I picked the idea up.
We all had a good time and there was no brakes ever before the finish line for sure.
I miss those days.

Ed Fernandez · 03-07-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tomslik

that's what i thought but relying on MY memory, i wasn't sure.
so,why did it change?

I believe lack of participation.The same guys,capable of going fast,with the ability of
keeping within the .10 rule dominated.That's why we now run bracket style.

You're still aiming to go with the 290 stick in the American right?

chris3racing · 03-07-2010, 10:57 PM

Those were the days. When I saw this post I thought man how I would like to be back racing in those days. The races were all based on the national record. You showed up at the track, put a "shoe polish" class on your windshield and waited for your class to be called. Whatever class you were in, you might be the only one in your class. If there was only one car in the class then maybe a B/S and a D/S would run with a head start given the the slower car based on there respective national record. Both cars were still class winners. All the class winners were called back at the end of the day for "Stock" and "Super Stock" Eliminator. Again run-offs were based on the national record for each class car. You could forget looking at the weather, figure out what can I run this time do I want to dial faster or slower, run the record and win. It was that simple. Run to fast you broke out. Run too fast the second time you have moved the national record.

Any East Coast racers remember the name Bobby Warren and Haywood Register from Clinton, North Carolina. Find yourself a few National Dragster and East Coast Drag Times, from those days and look at how many different national records Bobby held in different stock classes at any one time. If you have the papers look at the cars which held the record. Some times the same car possibly held as many as three or four record at any one time. Bobby was the National Record man in stock eliminator in those days.

When Modified Production class came along was some of the most fun class racing around. On a given week-end a track would have a Gas and Modified race. Man was that soom good racing in C/MP, D/MP, E/MP and F/MP. I can hear those 10,000 rpm, winding small blocks with tunnel ram, two four barrel Holley Carbs through Stahl headers right now while I am typing this.

And I don't know when or how it all changed. As I have said in other posts on here, we quit racing in 1973. At that time, we were Super Stock racing and a lot of match races. Local Super Stock racers were paid to fill in a Match race show. A track would book the big names to draw the crowd, Ronnie Sox, Dyno Don, Bill Jenkins, Don Carlton and local Super Stock cars were the fill-in for the show. These races would be a lead in to a two out of three match race between the "Big Boys." This spread to local tracks, they would have match races with the local fill-in cars being match up for a big Sunday afternoon race. These Super Stock races would be EVERY night of the week, up and down the East Coast. There was always a crowd of spectators, many of them with cameras that used the big large metal flashes with these big plug in flash bulbs.

We are back racing now and the thing I don't see is the spectators in the stands.

Rusty Gillis · 03-07-2010, 11:30 PM

You ran off National records and were allowed a .10 under until the final and than you could go as far under as you needed to win. I won the Miami National Open December 1971 beating Roger England's SS/DA with my SS/GA Mustang winning with an 11.24 on a 11.45 record. If I remember correctly it was 1975 when NHRA went to the index system.

Tom keedle · 03-08-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I believe lack of participation.The same guys,capable of going fast,with the ability of
keeping within the .10 rule dominated.That's why we now run bracket style.

You're still aiming to go with the 290 stick in the American right?

yep, 290/4speed
2bbl for now (so i don't have to put a cage in it yet)

btw, i need a 4bbl piston or two to send in to a mfgr and see if they'll make 'em and get them approved (by nhra)

Tom Goldman · 03-08-2010, 08:21 AM

Oops

Ed Fernandez · 03-08-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tomslik

yep, 290/4speed
2bbl for now (so i don't have to put a cage in it yet)

btw, i need a 4bbl piston or two to send in to a mfgr and see if they'll make 'em and get them approved (by nhra)

Got one laying around.send me your address.

Tom keedle · 03-08-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Got one laying around.send me your address.

pm'd ya..

03-07-2010, 10:07 PM	#12
DK FRAZIER Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bogart GA Posts: 117 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? Tom, What engine are you running in the American ????? __________________ Doug Frazier D/SA 2038

03-07-2010, 10:31 PM	#13
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 535 Likes: 117 Liked 281 Times in 88 Posts	Re: how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? I ran stock at Amarillo TX Dragway in the 60's. B/S and C/S and flat towed it with a tow bar and free wheel spindles on the rear hubs. There they weighed you as you entered the race and tech was done there at the scales at the same time. No weight after that. We always weighed with the tool box in the trunk and the spare tires and a few shot bags to make weight. Of course those all came out when we hit the pits. I guess we were one of the cheaters but so was everyone else around the pits. That is where I picked the idea up. We all had a good time and there was no brakes ever before the finish line for sure. I miss those days.

03-07-2010, 10:57 PM	#15
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? Those were the days. When I saw this post I thought man how I would like to be back racing in those days. The races were all based on the national record. You showed up at the track, put a "shoe polish" class on your windshield and waited for your class to be called. Whatever class you were in, you might be the only one in your class. If there was only one car in the class then maybe a B/S and a D/S would run with a head start given the the slower car based on there respective national record. Both cars were still class winners. All the class winners were called back at the end of the day for "Stock" and "Super Stock" Eliminator. Again run-offs were based on the national record for each class car. You could forget looking at the weather, figure out what can I run this time do I want to dial faster or slower, run the record and win. It was that simple. Run to fast you broke out. Run too fast the second time you have moved the national record. Any East Coast racers remember the name Bobby Warren and Haywood Register from Clinton, North Carolina. Find yourself a few National Dragster and East Coast Drag Times, from those days and look at how many different national records Bobby held in different stock classes at any one time. If you have the papers look at the cars which held the record. Some times the same car possibly held as many as three or four record at any one time. Bobby was the National Record man in stock eliminator in those days. When Modified Production class came along was some of the most fun class racing around. On a given week-end a track would have a Gas and Modified race. Man was that soom good racing in C/MP, D/MP, E/MP and F/MP. I can hear those 10,000 rpm, winding small blocks with tunnel ram, two four barrel Holley Carbs through Stahl headers right now while I am typing this. And I don't know when or how it all changed. As I have said in other posts on here, we quit racing in 1973. At that time, we were Super Stock racing and a lot of match races. Local Super Stock racers were paid to fill in a Match race show. A track would book the big names to draw the crowd, Ronnie Sox, Dyno Don, Bill Jenkins, Don Carlton and local Super Stock cars were the fill-in for the show. These races would be a lead in to a two out of three match race between the "Big Boys." This spread to local tracks, they would have match races with the local fill-in cars being match up for a big Sunday afternoon race. These Super Stock races would be EVERY night of the week, up and down the East Coast. There was always a crowd of spectators, many of them with cameras that used the big large metal flashes with these big plug in flash bulbs. We are back racing now and the thing I don't see is the spectators in the stands.

03-07-2010, 11:30 PM	#16
Rusty Gillis Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 260 Likes: 21 Liked 87 Times in 19 Posts	Re: how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? You ran off National records and were allowed a .10 under until the final and than you could go as far under as you needed to win. I won the Miami National Open December 1971 beating Roger England's SS/DA with my SS/GA Mustang winning with an 11.24 on a 11.45 record. If I remember correctly it was 1975 when NHRA went to the index system. __________________ Rusty Gillis Former NHRA SS/FA and SS/GA record holder

03-08-2010, 08:21 AM	#18
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,435 Likes: 774 Liked 699 Times in 203 Posts	Re: how was stock/super stock ran in the 60's and 70's? Oops __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK Last edited by Tom Goldman; 03-08-2010 at 08:31 AM.