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Old 04-10-2021, 07:55 AM   #61
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Default Re: Big $$$ S/SS Races as a Business Model..Viable?

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel
The format run at the Southern Sportman race was fine
You want a second chance race thatís fine ...but you run into the problem of not enough time
You folks want to run for class fine
But putting on race format like CIC race where the fastest wins 95% of the time is a no go
My car is pretty quick ..but letís be real why waste my time with a second under car?
When some soft bogus combo is gonna win anyway
Bracket racing format is the fairest deal
Also the heads up format discourages slower class cars
So please support these races
These folks are doing. It for the love of the sport .
Hopefully a profit will be turned for the promoters..but it takes time

Racing a National Event make me feel dumb ..for the amount of time ,energy and $$$
Knowing when I commit Iím in for a run around and..Hurry Up And Wait
And zero customer service and zero f$&*#$ is.Given when Iím here to race.
I am only racing Virginia National because I had a credit.
Good riddance National Event jerk off BS. Iím over them
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Old 04-10-2021, 12:29 PM   #62
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Agree , if you want something to fill in the down time let guys make time runs and test for 50 bucks or something. I would have loved to have more hits on the tree while we were down ,just a thought and I'm sure guys would do it .


The National and Divisional races just aren't what they used to be and people are seeing it.

The Stock and Super stock combo races are great also like bowling green ky, and so on.


This is the perfect time for these last two big money races to shine!! I think they will get huge in the future.

In the end I think all we can ask for is to be treated good, paid well, and let people start seeing these awesome cars we run. I know the STL race was a hit on Motor Mania T.V. People that don't normally know what stock and super stock is, were getting into it and asking questions so thats a good thing!
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Old 04-10-2021, 09:29 PM   #63
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Stop trying to reinvent the wheel
James, I don't believe I am doing that. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible and use existing software and Q sheets.
What I am doing is suggesting ways to get some spectators in on a Friday or Saturday night to watch some heads up racing.
The only other way is to increase the car count to the point where the payouts and expenses are covered and the promoters can then pocket some money off the racers.
Sounds too much like NHRA to me..I'd rather see the profit come from spectators and fans.
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Old 04-10-2021, 10:19 PM   #64
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The Class Racing Revival had a good format when the first rd losers could enter a combo race for $100 entry. For $5,000,
The down time on Motor Mania TV had Personal interviews put on by Class Racing Today Bobby Fazio of Racers. Very smooth watching and the race had two races for $25,000 and two combo races ,their also was a cic race ,as all know class racing is a form of bracket racing with rules for the engines, rules on weights ,a set index system .Stock and Super Stock was the forefront of racing that bracket racing came from,, I see this format as very successful way ,very little of down time, The race was enjoyed by all.Another way to get spectators is to have a local company pay a fee to the promoters then that company gives away tickets to the race ,The promoters of both Class races were great
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:20 AM   #65
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Very good post by Don K on the CRR race. If the car count would have be closer to what they had hoped for , you would not need anything for filler . The concellation races were a neat race, call you for first round , pull up in your lane of chouce,no pairing just run who was in the other lane. Having been there, this race was as close to ideal for a class racer as it can get !!!

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Old 04-12-2021, 04:25 PM   #66
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Mark, this may not be the correct forum but the Father's Day combo race in Eau Claire, Wisconsin is rumored to be double $5k's with first round winner money! A little different formula but well received by many and could easily show real world preferences. I wouldn't miss it!

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Mark, this may not be the correct forum but the Father's Day combo race in Eau Claire, Wisconsin is rumored to be double $5k's with first round winner money! A little different formula but well received by many and could easily show real world preferences. I wouldn't miss it!

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Sure it is...as long as you report on how well the promoters did. ;-)
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Old 04-13-2021, 07:43 AM   #68
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The Class Racers Revival was the perfect format! Great S/SS racing, CIC race, comp race. Gives you the "have to win" for $25K but if you red light by .001 you still have the combo race! I wouldn't have changed a thing with the format! A week off of work and it being over Easter weekend was the only downfall. I realize timing is tough with track schedules and NHRA schedules but I feel THIS is the way to go! Little fun for everyone! I can't wait until the next one!!

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