Index Change Rumor

[Larry Hill]

Top Fuel is full contact.

[dartman]

what would happen if they.

1 lower the trigger to .850 Under for a review,

2 1.00 on automatic hits

3 lower the average to .650

4 leave the index alone



would it change any thing in the long run or would we be back to where we now in a few years

[Ron Ortiz]

If you can eat nachos and drink a beer while playing it is not a sport.

[1matcoman]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Top Fuel is full contact.

That's funny, right there......

[Mark Yacavone]

Guys, Let me apologize , right up front here. I have seen the error of my ways.
I've learned a lot from this thread.
Majority seems to want heads up runs, everywhere. Nat's, Div's and local series races.
Again, the majority seems to want the indexes to never be lowered. It brings in lots of new blood to the "sport".
So, hear me out.
If some is good, more is better, right? More's Law.
I think we should ADD five tenths to all indexes.. so then, instant hp would be 1.70 under . Of course the AFX cars need some room at the top, plus too many 1.20 teardowns lately, so let's move the trigger up 2 /10's . That would then make 1.89 seconds difference, between what NHRA says a legal car should run, and what they really run. Sounds reasonable to me.
But think about it the advantages here. A young guy with a family could now afford to build a Stocker that would pass tech. He could now afford the $900 converters, $3800+ transmissions, $1200 pistons, $12 gas, $360 entries, and so on ..
Plus there would be more guys out there to beat up on in heads up runs or class.
Also , more guys to run the class averages down.
As another bonus, there would be more room to work the ladders however you'd like.
So , what do you think?

Sorry I didn't see the light earlier.

Happy Turkey Day

[SDT1DYI]

Interesting idea to add 5 to all indexes.

How about a two tier Index system. Lower the current Index's 3. Then add back 6 or 7 for the second, high index for each class.

When you enter a race you identify your index choice. Must run that index for the race.

Qualifing ladder is base off the lower index number for each class.


No HP penalties under 1.20. Mandatory tear down 1.20 under or more.


Happy Thanksgiving

Steve Teeter. STK. 6380 /6283

[e vassar]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Guys, Let me apologize , right up front here. I have seen the error of my ways.
I've learned a lot from this thread.
Majority seems to want heads up runs, everywhere. Nat's, Div's and local series races.
Again, the majority seems to want the indexes to never be lowered. It brings in lots of new blood to the "sport".
So, hear me out.
If some is good, more is better, right? More's Law.
I think we should ADD five tenths to all indexes.. so then, instant hp would be 1.70 under . Of course the AFX cars need some room at the top, plus too many 1.20 teardowns lately, so let's move the trigger up 2 /10's . That would then make 1.89 seconds difference, between what NHRA says a legal car should run, and what they really run. Sounds reasonable to me.
But think about it the advantages here. A young guy with a family could now afford to build a Stocker that would pass tech. He could now afford the $900 converters, $3800+ transmissions, $1200 pistons, $12 gas, $360 entries, and so on ..
Plus there would be more guys out there to beat up on in heads up runs or class.
Also , more guys to run the class averages down.
As another bonus, there would be more room to work the indexes however you'd like.
So , what do you think?

Sorry I didn't see the light earlier.

Happy Turkey Day

Mark I dont know if you're serious here,or just messin with us. But I totally agree and I'll give you a real life example.
Before I bought my first LT1 F body legal stocker, I had a street version of the same car. 96 Z28 6 sp manual I found the car on a used car lot it was rough and had been neglected but it ran like hell and the AC worked and it was cheap this car would probably go about 14:10 maybe a little faster.
One day I got the idea it would make a great stocker with a metric trans,.so after some investigation I was shocked it would be a natural C/SA and would have to run at least 11:40. Had the index been 11:90 I would have broke the tool box out and gotten to work.
And it would have been way cheaper than the car I did buy.

[Jeff Stout]

Take a dive on a pass and that is your new gauge index for the entire year. Go .3 faster or more then the dive ET you took and receive HP. The dive ET will not be as slow now compared in years past and correction will happen sooner and averages will be faster. Otherwise being punished for going to slow and diving to keep HP protected.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Guys, Let me apologize , right up front here. I have seen the error of my ways.
I've learned a lot from this thread.
Majority seems to want heads up runs, everywhere. Nat's, Div's and local series races.
Again, the majority seems to want the indexes to never be lowered. It brings in lots of new blood to the "sport".
So, hear me out.
If some is good, more is better, right? More's Law.
I think we should ADD five tenths to all indexes.. so then, instant hp would be 1.70 under . Of course the AFX cars need some room at the top, plus too many 1.20 teardowns lately, so let's move the trigger up 2 /10's . That would then make 1.89 seconds difference, between what NHRA says a legal car should run, and what they really run. Sounds reasonable to me.
But think about it the advantages here. A young guy with a family could now afford to build a Stocker that would pass tech. He could now afford the $900 converters, $3800+ transmissions, $1200 pistons, $12 gas, $360 entries, and so on ..
Plus there would be more guys out there to beat up on in heads up runs or class.
Also , more guys to run the class averages down.
As another bonus, there would be more room to work the ladders however you'd like.
So , what do you think?

Sorry I didn't see the light earlier.

Happy Turkey Day

Mark, I think you are onto something here. I mean , it is almost the year 2020....lets just do away with the indexes and run off 1/4 second breaks...kinda like nostalgia superstock....Winner gets 500 bucks, r/u gets 250 and everyone gets a participation trophy...this will allow the Eliminator to be more DIVERSE and we won’t hurt anyone’s feelings...sound familiar ????

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Mark, I think you are onto something here. I mean , it is almost the year 2020....lets just do away with the indexes and run off 1/4 second breaks...kinda like nostalgia superstock....Winner gets 500 bucks, r/u gets 250 and everyone gets a participation trophy...this will allow the Eliminator to be more DIVERSE and we won’t hurt anyone’s feelings...sound familiar ????

How about the guys with the really big stackers and Renegades get taxed to cover the purse as well? They are the 1% after all and NHRA gets to keep all the gate and entries, win/win.