Gun carry

[SStockDart]

The 9th Circuit ruled today that states CAN restrict people from carrying firearms outside their homes.

Well, the most liberal circuit made a ruling that should end up in the Supreme Court.

Do you think that the liberals are "Poking the bear"....I do....

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

The 9th Circuit ruled today that states CAN restrict people from carrying firearms outside their homes.

Well, the most liberal circuit made a ruling that should end up in the Supreme Court.

Do you think that the liberals are "Poking the bear"....I do....

The 9th jerkit court of schlemiels is the most overturned court in the country..I wouldn't worry too much yet..

[SStockDart]

I can't help but think forward and what is likely to happen. It absolutely could not be good....for everyone!!!!

[Eddies66]

Here is the rest of the story: https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/03/9t...y-of-firearms/

[Carguy49]

I don't have any guns, but have shot them on occasion during my life.

I have many friends that have several guns and carry a gun when they are out in public.

No matter what the courts say, I believe that a person has the right to own and carry a gun, if they want to.

The problem IS NOT the guns.

[John Kissel]

Such is the way of life in the okkupied republik of n.j..If you need to protect your home, better use roll bar padding, the soft stuff. Last year komrade murphy banned the USCCA from doing business in this state.

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

Here is the rest of the story: https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/03/9t...y-of-firearms/

Interesting read. The 9th court cites historical references from up to 700 years ago that limited weapons in public. None of those societies were established under our constitution yet used as arguments for their decision. No where did the article state why he was denied other than sheriff discretion. The decision is not based on OUR constitution's 2nd amendment but instead on their assine agenda.

Iowa was a sheriff discretion state when I got my carry permit many years ago. A few years back the legislature amended it to Shall Issue if the applicant passed the background check.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Interesting read. The 9th court cites historical references from up to 700 years ago that limited weapons in public. None of those societies were established under our constitution yet used as arguments for their decision. No where did the article state why he was denied other than sheriff discretion. The decision is not based on OUR constitution's 2nd amendment but instead on their assine agenda.

Iowa was a sheriff discretion state when I got my carry permit many years ago. A few years back the legislature amended it to Shall Issue if the applicant passed the background check.

Law is based on thousands of years of pragmatic experience telling us what's practical to administer and desirable for fairness are made by humans, and so the reasons behind them vary. Some laws are passed by bad people for bad reasons, as when a town councillor proposes a new zoning by-law that will help his brother’s business but that will generally be bad for other businesses. But ideally, laws should be based on ethics. Good laws are generally intended to do ethically good things, such as protecting individuals, safeguarding rights, or promoting the flourishing of communities. I can’t speak to what is in the mind of the law enforcement in Hawaii, I lived there for three years but not as a resident and never voted in state election but I will say this, the culture is different and I am not saying that in a good or bad way.

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

Law is based on thousands of years of pragmatic experience telling us what's practical to administer and desirable for fairness are made by humans, and so the reasons behind them vary. Some laws are passed by bad people for bad reasons, as when a town councillor proposes a new zoning by-law that will help his brother’s business but that will generally be bad for other businesses. But ideally, laws should be based on ethics. Good laws are generally intended to do ethically good things, such as protecting individuals, safeguarding rights, or promoting the flourishing of communities. I can’t speak to what is in the mind of the law enforcement in Hawaii, I lived there for three years but not as a resident and never voted in state election but I will say this, the culture is different and I am not saying that in a good or bad way.

Excellent point Ed. The U.S. constitution was crafted to right the inequities that permeated through out the world for centuries. The 2nd amendment is unique to this country and has served us well. IT IS BASED ON CENTURIES OF PRAGMATIC EXPERIENCE AND OPPRESSION!!!

No one is invading the northern Mexican border to go through Mexico to get to Venezuela or any of the central/south american countries. Lenin was all for guns to over throw the czar then took them from everyone but his security force. Remember Germany pre WWII? Hitler?

Mental illness/religion beliefs have been behind most all the shootings in recent history. Dems/liberals say anyone who speaks out against their ideas are a threat and need to be silenced. Remember those in congress who questioned 2020 election? Get a liberal mental health "professional" to sign them off as a threat based on what they call "hate" speech (opposition to them) and wha la...good bye firearms. They won't touch radical mideast jihadists though.

Bottom line. Who gets to decide...Pelosi, harris, liberal justices?

[L.Fite]

Funny thing...
Those 700 year old laws were written by kings and oppressors that were under constant threat of revolt...
That's how our country (U.S.A.) came to be, one of England's many civil wars...
(They call it sedition today)
Hence the reason for the laws, to control the oppressed...
Our Constitution was written in an attempt to right those oppressions...
Remember 700 years ago most of Europe was kings and slaves, (indentured or not, slaves none the less)
You got what the king would let you have, nothing more...
And sometimes less...