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Old 07-13-2016, 02:13 PM   #31
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I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!
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Old 01-24-2021, 01:12 AM   #32
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Old Thread, new question:

I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!
Not aware of Mopar ever building a 440 dual quad motor Deuce.

440 6 Pack or 440 single 4BBL.

99% certain only the Hemis , Sonoramics, early 383/413s and MW motors came with duals in the 60s

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Old 01-24-2021, 01:44 AM   #33
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Thanks Rat
In the years in between I've concluded the same, the 440-dual-quad was a mixup or typo or something.

It was a little iffy since NHRA DID legalize the 1962 383/343-8v inline / tandem dual quad even though AFAIK none ever left the assembly line (at least not under the hood). That combo had a lot of wins in Stock/Auto classes.

On the "1962" Clise car I've concluded that it was a 63 wagon 426/415 max wedge, W/P=8.78, a very good fit to the 8.70 class.

Having gone thru a lot more of these sheets, I've concluded the car year is USUALLY right, but not always, even if it's given and legible.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:03 AM   #34
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First mistake is believing anything in Larry Davis' books.
Whoever writes the captions, if he doesn't know ,(he usually doesn't) he just makes it up!
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:19 PM   #35
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Old Thread, new question:

I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!
Pretty sure that was a 383/343 Dual Quad that Tommy ran in the 62'--he ran a bunch of different engines bac then

Jim
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Is there a list somewhere of the surviving 427 light weight Fairlanes? I believe Rich Lorenze from Brazil Indiana had one. I drive through that town once a month and Lorenze Auto Repair is still there. I'm going to stop one day and see if they have any photos around that I can scan if no one else has any.
Rich Lorenze passed away a year or so back....but his son Tony has the Fairlane and his 63 Galaxy.
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