Misconception on a slow stocker winning

[lvd2340]

You can win in a slower car, raced a 12sec footbrake street eliminator ride in Super Pro @ Lebanon Valley. Qualified #1 for our track @ the Division 1 Bracket Finals. Fast cars can have a tough time judging the slow guys. Yes there's always the chance of red lighting first. Since i was always the slowest i always had to look over my shoulder, race enough of the fast cars and you'll figure out where they all should be. I got to race enough dragsters i was able to figure out if they would catch me or not. It can be done just not as easy like people said weather changes are more of a challenge with the slower cars. But they can be deadly, like people said look at Lang, he's racing a slow brick of a wagon and is killer with it. It can be done just most people choose to go fast, many think ya gotta be fast to win. Nope.

[GTX JOHN]

I better hide this thread from my kid and his N,O,P/SA Aspen 318 Wagon which is alway one of the slowest cars.....
as I do not want to discourage him from winning rounds.

2010 Div 7 Allstar in Stock
Went to US Nationals 2010 and beat a couple of the very Best Drag Pack Cars.
4th in Div 7 2010
3rd at Winters' 2012. Stock

His ragged 11 Sec. SS Aspen has beaten several New Mustangs and
8 Sec. Modified cars at National races that run 40 to 50 MPH Faster.

My old 13 Second Valiant won Pro Track Champ. LVMS against Mostly
8 to 10 Sec transbrake cars that are 60 MPH plus faster on our Div 7 Winning Team and I can't findthe bathroom without a flashlight at Night!

If you cut a light and know your car and weather well enough to Dial it right AND know where the finish is.......You will be OK with your slow slugmobile!

Just my .02 worth, sorry for the rant.

We bring to the races cars we can afford to build and still
pay the rest of our bills and eat regular every day!

There are not many people in our neck of the woods that can
race 100K plus cars.........If you can that is good and you are fortunate!

Irving Family Racing

[The Hawk]

It is possible to be competitive in the slower cars. Look at Stan Kopejtka`s runner up at the LODRS in Great Bend last month in a EF/S Dodge. That`s his second final in a few year span. I myself have been fairly competitive with my old Buick V6 V/SA cars over the years,winning one Division 5 event and the Division 5 Championship in `96. It`s gotten tougher to win,everyone`s gotten way better and cars are more consistant.

[cicero819]

I'm really glad to see the response my tread has brought out. John I've seen your son's car at Indy last year and you and your family are what this sport is all about, Hawk I love that great article many moons ago about you and your Buick in Bracket USA, also have followed many great racers such as Don(the worm) Elgin and his very consistent Pontiac. I've have raced for many years and I have always been a supporter of slower race cars in stock and just wanted to see why so many are pulling away from the slower class. Don't get me wrong I love watching the new breed of quality fast new style retro Mustangs, Challengers and maybe Camaros when they do come out, they bring excitement to our sport but we can't afford to lose the thinking men(Billy Nees,Mark Yaccavone and so many out there that I might forget to mention), low dollar solution to the races. Lesson no 1, keep records,2) check weather station 3)keep equipement in tip top shape 4)let them chase you and Ed we won't bring the subject of worse red light.lol I could name a bunch of racers who have made quite a name for themselves running slower cars in brackets such as the late Steve Taylor and his wife Brenda runninng stock Cavaliers against all type of race cars and winning, Dan Fletcher(running anything with an engine) Bob Mullaney with his $1 dollar car Nova, Jody and Toby Lang from Washington State, Bret " Mr Dirt" racing various rental cars, Chuck Gillian in California, and many more who have won with slower cars, it's possible!Claude p.s. keep them coming. this is very helpfull when I'm knee deep in grease working at night on My Camaro K or L/SA now.lol

[cicero819]

Here are some great choices

[Pat Comstock]

don't forget Scott Helms winning Gator Nationals in 09 in his big old heavy '66 Impala running Q/SA...

[Michael Beard]

Randall Campbell is doing great at Bristol this weekend in his R/SA truck, and has a well-timed bye run coming up. If he can survive a brutal semifinal matchup, this could be the weekend!

[Michael Beard]

Thomas Fletcher won the Div. 1 Pro-Am at Skyview today in the family's K/SA wagon, and he beat Sam Capizzi Jr's Q/SA Dart in the semis.

[cicero819]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Thomas Fletcher won the Div. 1 Pro-Am at Skyview today in the family's K/SA wagon, and he beat Sam Capizzi Jr's Q/SA Dart in the semis.

I knew, if enough of the lower classes showed up, they would have just as good a chance to win, doesn't matter what people say, if you cut a great light and you run on your et and hopefully your opponent doesn't you have just as good chance to win(Forget the better or worse red light because the faster car still has as much chances to red light after). I wish I was racing right now but unfortunately I'm armpit in grease, the good news my Camaro is all stripped and ready for paint, motor is done(an older Bud Rowe engine completly rebuilt but without the $5k+ heads) now I have to install those parts back(I didn't have to have acid strip the rust process had something to do with it, even though I started with a rust free car until you get right into it).lol

[cicero819]

One creation from Nees race cars